I really like these two coins. They look nicer in hand than the pictures(dealer or mine). So thanks Ben - I know I paid a little more from the dealer, but they are certainly worth it. So please provide a grade opinion. The overton numbers are in the picture titles, but they are 1819 O-107 R4 and 1828 O-113 R3. And for all those concerned about the carpet - you can see it is really beige. Look in the corners of the pictures. I was too lazy to take the coins out of the holder - have to go work on the yard.
And it is worth it. In this case I am waffling between f/vf and vf/xf. So I thought I would some opinions to help me decide. Sometimes the CBH's get hard to determine wear from weak strike.
I would grade the 1819 half VF 20. The 1828 has nice detail on the reverse and I would grade it XF 45. Very nice coins. Lou
I agree with the other opinions VF for the top one, and XF for the bottom one. I absolutely LOVE the bust half series'. Just a few years ago, you could pick up some excellent VF-XF's for about $45. A very underrated series I believe.
I'll say (1819 VF-35 or EF-40) and the (1828 XF-45). Beauties and I know you're proud of them. Take Care Ben
newbie question Are the overton numbers for capped bust coins variety numbers like the VAM numbers are for Morgans and Peace dollars?
Ehhhh... somewhat I guess, except they are not considered errors. The 450+ different Overton numbers for the Bust Half Dollar series are considered sub varieties for each year. Take Care Ben
Ben, Morgan and Peace Dollars are given a VAM number for both Errors and Varieties! Is this not true for Bust Half Dollars as well with the Overton numbering? Frank
Yes, suppose you could say the same thing for CBHs; but whereas all Overton Varieties aren't really considered Errors, likewise all Errors aren't given unique Overton Variety numbers either. It's normally an Overton Number (O-101) and a letter suffix (A&B). For example purposes let's say you have an 1810, Capped Bust Half. Using Obverse Die A and Reverse Die B, you come up with (let's say Overton Variety O-101). After 10,000 coins were struck with the (A&B) dies a crack develops. The next 30,000 coins are considered an O-101B with the (O-101) becoming O-101-A. After 30,000 more coins are struck the dies are beginning show wear and deterioration. The cracks are becoming more and more prominent, this is known as a Late Die State (LDS). Finally the dies are in their Terminal Die State (TDS) and that last coin looks VASTLY worse than any other O-101-Bs and some specimens any even show some die rotation and clash marks, but they are still only 101-Bs considered then, to be struck from a Terminal Die... The last coin struck using dies A&B looks pretty rough and has some obvious defects not listed in the O-101-A or the O-101-B but that's what it is, an O-101-B. There are no O-101-Cs... Clear as Mud??? Take Care Ben