I have been into coins for decades, but not ancient coins. I recently acquired a box of ancients and found some very valuable coins that definitely needed to be certified. Lets just say that education comes at a cost. Here are my rejects. #1 NERO AE SETERTIUS (26.48 G)
If you can´t tell if they are original or not, and they are (if good) valuable, it is both an amateur move and a must to send them to NGC for certification. Also, you could have asked here beforehand too.
Agreed. Those are readily identifiable as modern forgeries by the photos alone. I'm sorry your coins are not genuine.
MATIDIA is possibly a Cigoi forgery. BRUNETTI L. - Opus monetale Cigoi. Plates coin number 145 Are you willing to sell it if yes how much do you want to have for it? If you are willing to sell I would like to buy through ebay save for both. To value, if it is proven that the forgery is actually from Cigoi it is rare and has a value of some hundred Dollar (only few collectors), the reverse is not preserved that well which reduces the value. I paid for my Cigoi forgery 500 Euro but coin is in much better condition and with unpublished reverse die and so very interesting. At CNG a Cigoi forgery was sold for 1300 Dollar but in much better condition with unpublished obverse die and so very interesting. https://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=359373 The position of the letters to design and the design itself fits to the plaster cast 145 in BRUNETTI´s book. I am almost 99% certain it is a Cigoi. With best regards
If it came in the same lot with the 3 fakes, I think its safe to assume that's also a fake. But don't take my word for it, there are people way more knowledgeable than me on this forum.
Not sure why you would send and pay for coins to be graded with suspicions of being fake then again I wouldn't have any any real or not graded
I agree. I would consider this fake unless someone more knowledgeable than myself said otherwise. There might be a die match somewhere in the Forvm fake reports, so I’d start there.
I sent these believing they were real. I have a fair understanding of coins, but am not an expert on ancients. Since we know that to be the case. What should I look for next time? I am sure there are teachers here to help.
I would not have sent them to NGC, but I don't think it was an amateur move. You got some coins you wanted an opinion, and you got one. I think the the coin NGC offered no opinion is opinion enough. I hope this experience does not deter you from collecting ancients. There are several online databases of forgeries out there, if you search the forum you'll be able to find them. (I don't have the links)
You should buy coins from better sources next time. There are many threads here discussing the dealers and auction houses that people here buy from. As a new collector if you're buying them from questionable sources like wherever you found these you'll probably end up with more fakes.
I dont see anything remarkably obvious about the second Nero Sestertius to say its fake. There are some areas which seem a bit too sharp in relation to the rest of the coin, so it may be tooled and perhaps smoothed. But hammered edges are common for the period (especially sestertii).
....i trust their judgement...i have several NGC slabbed ancients.. but this was before i was a member here and i agree totally with @KIWITI