Do i have a chance at chasing the new $14k record for a 1963-D in MS67?

A couple of points for you to ponder.....

1) If you want to take better photos, you'll need a real camera with attachments and lighting set-up and not just a phone camera that can only be used (for best results) when there is daylight.

2) Did you notice that there was only one bidder ($13,000) for the PCGS specimen? In all likelihood, there won't be any other bidders willing to go that high. So, you should expect that the next one that surfaces for sale will not even come close to that price.

Chris

 

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I had noticed that. and the last 67 sold for $3500.

 

Hey Ron,
Could that be struck through grease on the rev stairs, or just a degraded die? I went through the 25 coins that i set aside and abt 75% have weak stairs. Seemly in abt a half inch circle of week strike in the exact spot every time.

Could you give a guess to the grade of your coin?

Thanks for the cool gif Ron!

 

Actually there are quite a few interesting things going on with the steps and the field under the steps.

Above, I have a blank planchet showing just how banged up they are even before striking. Below, more detail about the obverse and reverse.

1. In the fields you see marks where the planchet was not smoothed completely during the strike.
2. Imagine flipping the obverse image over. This would show that the area where the steps are weak is the same area where a lot of metal must flow up into the jaw. Quite simply, the steps just didn't get enough metal to be fully formed.
3. You can see that there are more marks from contact after striking. On some, it is easy to see a curvature where the rim of another coin banged into it. These have sharp contours and are shiny.
4. You can also see faint bright lines in the fields from die polishing. You can tell they are scratches in the die, and raised lines on the coin, by the way the light catches them.

Maybe a bit higher pressure during striking would have flattened out some of the planchet marks and would have forced more metal into the steps. Generally these issues don't account for much of the grade, but in this case I would be surprised if the grade went over MS66 RD.

 

Thanks. I find the more I offer information, the more chances I have to learn more.

Oh, and don’t forget to click to expand the photos to full size!

 

It’s really impossible to give you an accurate answer to a question like this from photographs. The grading gets to be so precise when you get to MS-66 and above that a personal examination is required.

Looking at your coins, if there is one small mark that easy to see with a 10X glass, like a scratch on Lincoln’s coat, the coin is out of the running. Also the strike has to be needle sharp. You can’t have any missing detail on the steps as a previous poster pointed out.

Finally, you are barking up the wrong tree if you are depending upon NGC to provide you with the $14 thousand record breaking cent. Like the late Rodney Dangerfield, “NGC don’t get no respect” when it comes to ultra high priced modern coins. It has to be PCGS graded.

The reasons for that are two fold. First, the PCGS Registry is where it’s at to get the super respect that registry addicts crave. The NGC Registry is an also ran. Second, PCGS is, on average, a bit tighter in their grading of these coins, at least they used to be.

 

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