Trade Dollar Fake?

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  1. mralexanderb

    mralexanderb Coin Collector

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  3. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    Run Forrest, run !!! Looks cast. NEVER buy raw trade dollars on Fleabay
     
  4. hontonai

    hontonai Registered Contrarian

    When he answers your question by saying it weighs 22g, you'll know!
     
  5. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Message him and ask him the weight and also ask him for better pictures. The rims and some of the lettering looks cast but the rest of the coin doesn't. If it is a fake, it is one of the better fakes. Look at the banner on the reverse and the E Pluribus Unum. Most fakes aren't that crisp on the banner but this one is. With better pics you "should" be able to tell but do NOT go by weight alone. If it is the correct weight and you buy it for that reason alone, I have a real nice 1893-S Morgan (F-45) that is the correct weight and I'll sell it to you for a very reasonable amount! :mouth:

    Ribbit,
    Toad :smile
     
  6. acanthite

    acanthite ALIIS DIVES

    On eBay, saying 'I'm not sure if its real' is the same as saying 100% fake. Who would ever post a potentially real coin and kill the bidding by opening that can of worms? How hard would it be for him to have someone authenticate it and sell it as guaranteed real with money back if it isn't?
     
  7. trnbz5oqz

    trnbz5oqz Junior Member

    this one has what looks like an extra berry/extra items under the claw to the right as you look at it. This was brought up recently- I've collected over 47 yrs and have bought genuine silver Trade $'s recently but notice some have only 1 stem/others have extra berry/stem under that claw- are these real or was this some variations I am unaware of? Also, did they make 2 varieties of the arrow feathers- again, I have them with 2 differnt variations? (hoping and praying mine are real)
     
  8. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    Considering I watched a cast copy of a colonial coin go for over $700.00 and the seller used the same ploy, that in-of-itself doesn't necessarily kill the bidding. The coin in question was a USA Bar Cent and it was obviously a cast and they would never send me better pics. They claimed they tried to send them but it didn't work and when I replied through my email so they could just reply and attach the pics to the reply, not a peep out of them. They knew the coins were fakes but used the "ploy" to get them off the hook when the buyer wanted a refund after realizing it was a fake when they had it/them in hand.

    That wasn't the only fake colonial coin they sold that night and all of them went for a pretty penny. I feel sorry for the peeps who bought them!

    As to this listing, I cannot say it is a ploy but it could be. If I wanted to bid on it, I'd do him the same way and if he wouldn't send me better pics, I'd run as fast as I could.

    Ribbit,
    Toad :smile

    Ps: There were about 5 fake colonial coins sold that night, by two different sellers, and neither would send me better photos.
     
  9. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    It is a fake without a doubt.
     
  10. HandsomeToad

    HandsomeToad Urinist

    The more I look at it the more I too think it's a fake. The angle of the shot is what "faked" me out in the beginning. By giving an angle to the camera, the pitting is masked by the shine of the coin, except for the rims but if you look really close at the raised areas you can spot the pitting.

    Fake! :hammer:

    Ribbit :smile
     
  11. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Fake would be my guess.

    Note the denticles on the obverse from 3-5 o'clock.
    Some are merely dots, seperated from the rim.
     
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