the best morgan 1921 Farran Zerbe

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What you have is a very badly polished coin. Value: $15-20

 

in the last 50 years it has NEVER been cleaned before but it does not justify this conservation !!! ... if you can find one similar to this I buy it without thinking twice for twice what you indicated 40 $

 

too easy and superficial to say washed and polished !!! try to wash and polish one of your morganes and you will see a white coin that does not offer attention and that will remain so for at least 100 years, impossible to acquire a natural patina like this with shades of different colors and the ultra-glossy base like le proof (dpl ) how these pieces are defined. the coins washed and polished appear in another way. thanksss

 

Enjoying your trolling??? It is a cleaned and polished ‘21D ordinary Morgan. Give it up—there are too many folks who really know Morgans here. That is one really ugly coin there, with the cheek looking like Swiss Cheese. The Auto polish does not a rare proof make.

 

@gianni .I would like to compliment you on the significant improvement in your English since your last post. Your last post sounds like it was written by somebody very proficient in English. Compare that to your posts from a few weeks ago that sounded like the were run back and forth between an internet translator. Well done.

I would also like to complement you on how fast you picked up on numismatics. Just 2 months ago, you insisted that a liberty half dollar was XF when it was a worn VG. Somehow you weren't even able to find standard US grading references in the web. Now you know about Chapman and Zerbe specimen dollars. It usually takes US collectors years to pick up that knowledge and you're in Italy. Once again, well done.

If I didn't know better, I would think you were someone trying to troll this forum

 

my english is about google translate but I'm getting better !!! thanksss. I don't take the forum as a joke, it's a very good support to understand certain things. The problem with my insistence is that I have the coin in my hand while you have photos that are always very limited, this coin is not a circulating municipality and even an idiot who is holding it understands that in the past it has been washed or polished for me it has little importance but I do not believe it I think that if it were so it would not be found today in these splendid conditions with colors and patina absolutely natural, I like to go to the end and I read a lot about the morgan and the various events related to 1921 and to the outside order on the pieces chapman and zerbe, many I have read they maintain that of these similar tests they were coined in higher number than that known and that also and above all denver was architect of this but they didn't have to show signs of mints what probably displaced and then removed many write that the first deliveries to zerbe were all destroyed for little proof beauty and perhaps also for the sign of the mint, the history after almost 100 years is unclear and is known only what was wanted was remembered but there was an unclear action because for 1921 there were no proofs for the market and yet there are dozens of known pieces without a mint mark but no one can say with certainty that they were secretly minted in Philadelphia. if you put this coin beside a proof zerbe even a blind one tells you that they are exactly the same but this cannot say it follows the theses reported in the catalogs and that only looks at one photograph. Today it is impossible to say that in denver proofs were secretly coined. The world is full of cases with unique coins or known in (2/3 ... few pieces). This coin has NEVER been washed or polished in the last 50 years and this is bible from photos you can say everything but if you would have it in hand I challenge how many of you would say that it is a polished coin and that it is a normal circulating coin

 

Could somebody please show this troll where the back door is?

 

I can't. That'd require me to unignore him and that's just too much work.

 

I'm fairly new to this forum and learning alot, but I don't know what a Zerbe is on a morgan dollar? Could someone explain?

 

I always tell New Collectors to Read the Book before they buy the coin in whatever series they want to collect. I have the Big Grey VAM Book and continue to go to
VAMWorld.com for any updates. So if you're a NEW collector or OLD collector of Morgan and Peace Dollars like me, study, study, study the VAM varieties and the die characteristics of any Dollar you purchase. There are experts on Coin Talk who specialize in Morgan and Peace Dollars and if they say, and the books confirm it, No 1921-D Zerbe Proof Morgans exist. I'd like to see a catalog listing of a 1921-D Zerbe Proof Morgan Dollar being sold at any auction from 1921 to now, 2019.

 

@gianni Can you help please? I have this rare 1861 1 centesimo that is very nice and I think the inverted M mint mark. Is this very valuable? Very special and high grade I think!

 

Hi. The 1861 M is common value about 20$. Your coin 1c have regular M from milan not inverse

 

This is rare 1c 1861 milan reverse M (W). Sorry your coin value 20$

 

Ok thank you. I know nothing about this series but accept your evaluation.

 

WAYNE MILLER the major market maker for Morgan & Peace Dollars american confirms that the 1921-D prooflike (zerbe) exist and that they come from the VAM 1-A coinage

 

Give it up. You don’t know the Morgan series, nor the specialty coins. You are embarrassing yourself.

 

Hi, I'm sorry for some of you who have only criticized. Tonight I had a meeting with one of the best Italian American coinage experts and consultant for a London auction house, as soon as he took the coin in his hand he was shocked and incredulous, he called this one of the most beautiful morgan that America has never seen him, in 40 years of career he had never seen a morgan in these conditions calling it ultra exceptional and unique far far superior to the DPL that are known in america.
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one of the questions I asked him is if the coin had been washed or polished !! the answer was clear ABSOLUTELY IMPOSSIBLE the coin has the polishing in the bottom as few DPL present and color contrasts in the incredible authentic and natural reliefs. ...he said this is not a coin but a JEWEL

 

Who’s your Italian expert for American coinage? Topolino?