Help with luster on my NEWP and GTG

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Michael Scarn, May 5, 2019.

  1. Michael Scarn

    Michael Scarn Member

    I picked up 2 new items at CSNS last week. One was a so-so 1923 Peace $ to start my long planned for MS set of that series. For the second piece, I broke two of my personal collecting "rules": (1) Don't buy coins that are not currently part of a set you are looking to build and (2) Don't buy coins from series that you haven't already thoroughly researched.

    And so I ask you, the good people of CT, to help educate me on this 1946-S quarter. I have attached 2 photos of the same coin with different lighting. The first photo better shows the appearance of the coin in hand. What made the coin jump out at me was the white-ish nature of the luster (I hesitate to call it haze, because I associate that with unattractive toning and I hope/think that isn't what this is). I have read of "frosty" vs. "satiny" luster in various books on other series. Is one of those descriptions appropriate for this coin's appearance? Finally, are Washington quarters commonly known to look this way or are there other series that are known to often have this appearance (Peace $s and SLQs, where I spend most of my time, don't seem to)? I know this isn't "rare", but I find I really like this look and I'm interested in finding other items with a similar appearance (plus it's frustrating not to know how to describe it!).

    To make it a bit more fun (and selfishly to attract more interest), I decided to also make this post a GTG. I will post the grade at 10pm EDT on 5/6.

    1946-S Quarter - Copy (2) - Copy.jpg

    1946-S Quarter_3 - Copy.jpg

    20190505_090637 (2) - Copy.jpg

    Feel free to yell at me to go read the guide book if the answers to all my questions are in there.

    Thanks all!
     
    Last edited: May 5, 2019
    Spark1951, Paul M., green18 and 3 others like this.
  2. Avatar

    Guest User Guest



    to hide this ad.
  3. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Attractive. I'll guess MS65. I probably know less about quarters than you do though.
     
  4. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    We can't guess the grade unless you post photos of the reverse.
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It looks perfectly normal to me. And I see no sign of any haze. But, that may be due to what I call haze, and what you call haze. And I realize you were using the word to describe something you didn't quite know how else to describe.

    I think both, or either, could easily be applied when trying to describe this look. But I can also understand where some would prefer using the one word while others would prefer using the the other word. And I can also see where neither word would be considered appropriate because everything depends on ones definition of each word - and everybody uses different definitions for everything !

    What you need to understand is that all types of coins, and I'm using type in its literal numismatic sense, have different kinds of luster. In other words each type has its own unique kind of luster - as in they are all different from each other, but yet still similar in some ways.

    For example, you mentioned SLQs. Well, SLQs have a different kind of luster than Washingtons have, and Barber quarters have a different kind of luster than either one of them. Or, Frankies have a different kind of luster than Kennedys do, and Walkers have a different kind of luster than either one of them.

    Now a lot of folks may not recognize this right off because they're not really used to looking for it. They've seen it a thousand times they just never thought of it in that way. But it's there and plain to see if ya do look. But one that everybody recognizes right away, one that everybody is very well aware of are Morgans and Peace dollars. Everybody knows they have different kinds of luster. But what they might not know is that Seated dollars and or Ikes have different kinds of luster than all the others.

    So when you express yourself and say you're not used to this look, about all I can say is what I said above - it looks perfectly normal to me. But I would add one thing, the coin has obviously been dipped, but that's certainly not a bad thing in any way. It's just an observation.

    edit - I should have added something else. You mentioned that this isn't a type you normally collect. And I suspect that's the reason you're not used to seeing this kind of luster.
     
  6. Autoturf

    Autoturf Well-Known Member

    Beautiful GEM coin.
     
  7. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I find your coin to be lustrous and very attractive. I would guess MS 64 at a minimum and probably MS 65.
     
  8. coinsareus10

    coinsareus10 Well-Known Member

    Nice eye appeal and luster. I would say 65+
     
  9. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    I’d call that more satiny if I was to use a description but what I would call that is a very eye appealing attractive coin which I think is correctly graded at ms 65 . Nice pickup
     
  10. samclemens3991

    samclemens3991 Well-Known Member

    I will guess 64 with a few small ticks to George's head
     
  11. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

  12. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

  13. Michael Scarn

    Michael Scarn Member

    longshot and GenX Enthusiast like this.
  14. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    I'm not surprised...I have several 66s which don't even compare with the 65s in overall appeal.
     
  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    very nice original piece
     
  16. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Don't get addicted to the "CAC trap." Years ago this coin could have been graded from MS-64 to MS-65. The minor disturbances on Washington’s cheek and jaw would have precluded MS-66, but with grade-flation, it’s now accepted. Rather than discouraging grade-flation, CAC has too often bought into it.
     
  17. Mike Thorne

    Mike Thorne Well-Known Member

    Not with my Washington 25c, unfortunately. I submitted a bunch of 66 full luster coins, and none of them earned a green bean. Go figure!
     
  18. green18

    green18 Unknown member Sweet on Commemorative Coins

    It's lovely and original.........every once in awhile we spy something outside of our collecting realm. Something that 'speaks' to us. You didn't do half bad my friend......:)
     
    wxcoin likes this.
  19. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I have an 1882 Morgan Dollar with that white frosty luster. PCGS MS65 CAC. It looks like shaved ice.
     
    Bob Evancho likes this.
  20. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    Shaved ice goes good with scotch.
     
    Dynoking likes this.
  21. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Going to go with the satin term. Not sure of this frosty term. Not sure what frosty Would look like on a coin. But my daughter does love the Wendy's frosties
     
Draft saved Draft deleted

Share This Page