GTG -1941 D Jefferson

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  1. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    MS 65 5 FS
    ...from the photos, I don't see any major hits/marks; I think the spots around the rim on the reverse might deduct a point (but that may just be my own standard)
     
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  3. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Okay this is probably going to blow a few folk's minds. PhotoEditor_20190427_142710385.jpg Slab says.....AU58 FS!!!! I saw this a week or so ago and researched it a little and thought I would buy it as an example of AU nickel. But in hand it looks MS with just a couple of hits and the steps look full until you start blowing them up to 30 or 50x...then you see a Nick or two...so next question is is this an error slab. When you look up the NGC number it says value not available. I cannot find a value for FS in AU58...is it an AU 58/65? This coin values at $2.00 in AU so I took a chance at $5...:D very interesting study if nothing else! You can see a little of the toning in this pic that was absent in my original post.
     
  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    That's certainly interesting!
    Maybe there is a hint of wear that wasn't coming through on the photos? Either way it does look like one of those super attractive AU pieces that has better eye appeal than most 60-63 examples.

    I don't think it is an error label/slab; NGC does not list a price guide value for many coins (including stars, quite a few World Coins, and some obscure coins). And NGC is known to give designations for AU coins (just some examples that I have seen: AU 58 FBL Franklins as well as AU 55 PL and AU 58 PL Morgans).

    I think you found a nice coin at a price that is hard to beat. Congratulations!
     
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  5. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    When I first looked at it I thought that there was a slight hint of rub on Jefferson's cheek but I find this series hard to grade. If this coin was an early 50's coin it may have graded MS. 1941 seems to have been a good year for full strike/steps coins. However, in this example I never would have given it FS because of the complete lack of separation between the bottom two steps. In my opinion, giving this coin FS would be like giving a Mercury dime FB if all but one band was split.
     
  6. chascat

    chascat Well-Known Member

    Still an MS65-66 5FS!
     
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  7. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    AU66 5FS, final answer. :D
     
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  8. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    I'll post some more pictures in a while. 18 holes and early dinner need napppp....
     
  9. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    There is a mark on Jeff's jacket. A mark above right of the Monticello dome and a couple of marks below the I in Monticello but otherwise field are pretty much clean.
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  10. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Couls it be late stage dies or somewhat of a weak strike even with FS?
     
  11. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    Are there interruptions in luster?
     
  12. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Not full steps in my eyes. Weak strike reverse. Would not buy this coin even if MS
     
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  13. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Sorry I forgot to get back with you. No interruptions in luster.
     
  14. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    I will try to get better pictures. In hand and slabbed as FS. I'm happy for $5. If for only as a great example as to AU grading of Jeffersons which most people admit is difficult at best.
     
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  15. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    Actually no breaks across the steps themselves there are a couple of nicks but they are on the high point ot the steps and don't break the line between the steps. The one issues is the bottom step above the C is weak. In the right light there is a faint line in that area though. Admittedly I haven't seen very many FS in hand. I can definately see why some are skeptical. This is either a $2 coin at AU 58 with no FS to best case MS66 with FS ($35 coin). So there is no upside really to spend $30 to try to upgrade as I don't have enough experience with this series to really tell the difference between MS63 and MS66 PhotoEditor_20190502_181641708.jpg
     
  16. Shrews1994

    Shrews1994 Collecting is my passion.

    I'd go with MS 66. I see a full five steps too almost has 6 but it kind of fades away into the second step.
    But this nickel is really nice.
     
  17. FooFighter

    FooFighter Just a Knucklehead Coin Hunter


    With those mark's factored in, even toning and full steps, going by the grading guidelines I believe this coin, AND it's owner missed out on money and pride, as I commented 2 pages back.
    I'd argue it, challenge it whatever.
     
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