Brokage? 2016 D Penny

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by knownothing, Apr 26, 2019.

  1. knownothing

    knownothing New Member

    I know essentially nothing when it comes to coins. I found this today searching Loomis rolls and I would appreciate any information you guys may have. Rev.jpg Obv.jpg
     
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  3. furryfrog02

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  4. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    vice job...
     
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  5. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    My thought at first too. Just not sure how the metal on the obverse would get like that without any damage along the left side.
     
  6. knownothing

    knownothing New Member

    If it helps, in person you can see faint images of Lincoln on both sides.
     
  7. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    Post mint damage. Maybe done with hydraulic press, and squeezed more than one coin. Like a vice job but with more power.
     
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  9. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    I agree that it was pressed like @alurid posted
     
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  10. knownothing

    knownothing New Member

    For the sake of argument, lets say it wasn't pressed. What kind of value would this have?

    Also, I took it to a coin shop and they did not think it was pressed.
     
  11. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    This has been said many times before on CT but bears repeating; you should never assume it's an error because you can't explain how it was damaged. You should always ask "how could this have occurred during the minting process

    The minting and die making process is well documented and understood. There are countless ways a coin can be damaged after it leaves the mint. So for the sake of argument, how did this occur during the minting process?
     
  12. knownothing

    knownothing New Member

    Good line of thinking. I don't know enough to figure that out. Here are a few more pictures that make some features more obvious.
     

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  13. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    That is damage. Not a Brockage. Not all coin dealers specialize in attributing mint errors.

    The very bored person who created it would know how it was created.
     
  14. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    If you can't figure out how it was made at the mint, then it likely wasn't. It's not about knowing enough, it's about thinking through the process of an obverse and reverse die striking a blank planchet. What would need to happen for the obverse image to be transferred to the coin, then the same coin is struck again, with what?????, to create the pattern shown? Not knowledge, just logic, think it through.
     
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  15. JCro57

    JCro57 Making Errors Great Again

    Definitely altered post-Mint. This is an easy call
     
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  16. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Again, that's what I thought. I was surprised that with the pressure used on the obverse that the reverse wasn't distorted more/flattened to oblivion.
     
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  17. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    Definitely a "vise" job!
     
  18. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Quite different but still damaged. This could not have occurred at the Mint. There are countless ways this could have been done after it left the Mint.
     
  19. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Put 3 coins together in a vice and tighten them. This will transfer images backwards. Look at the date just under the one cent on 1st picture reverse
     
  20. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    obverse looks pressed. by some spare metal pressed onto it. You can see Abe's outline still there, etc. The object was pressed off canter, and looks to have bent the cent especially on one side.

    If a vice seems like too much effort (it's not), for extra force you can get some pretty cheap, small hydraulic presses from harbor freight and go bizerk.

    reverse clearly has the date impressed on it.
     
  21. enamel7

    enamel7 Junior Member

    For Pete's sake, it's vise, not VICE!!!
     
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