Interesting collapsed die state on a 1768 Demi Sol?

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Pondering_Infinity, Apr 23, 2019.

  1. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

    @Kentucky
    Really? I thought I proved my point. reasonably well.. and then heard not a peep from the clutch of cackling hens.... @Conder101 not included in that label.... Fact is, this is clearly a repeated error... origin maybe unknown... but I still suspect a failed die. Do you have another explanation?

    Fact is, I think I know more about this real OLD SCHOOL error stuff than all of them combined.... I may be new here, but I am not at all new to this. I have a lot of French stuff I have shown them, but I have English and Spanish stuff (errors I mean) from the same period I have not shown them. I have modern coin errors too, but they are VERY BORING when compared to this older stuff, IMHO....

    But that is my opinion only... I am confident they would not agree.... but to me... I have proven @Fred Weinberg wrong twice in two months... his problem is he speaks of things he has no experience in... he should slow down when discussing things he does not have experience in. The words overconfident and pompous come to mind...

    They know modern stuff... totally clueless on this older stuff IMHO.... well maybe NOT SO Humble Opinion :U)

    I have have half a mind to have it slabbed and shove it up his nose just to say so... No.. I would not take his money.... I dont need it... If I do so, it is more to prove a point.
    Gary
     
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  3. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Troll alert, this guys pissed off enough people now he gets a troll stamp. This hen is cackling and not liking @Pondering_Infinity much.
    Reed
     
  4. ilmcoins

    ilmcoins Well-Known Member

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  5. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

    @352sdeer
    So... you have no opinion on the coin.... just here to talk about trolls?

    I thought this was a place to talk about coins?
     
  6. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Your sure acting like one
    Reed
     
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  7. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

    @ilmcoins

    I thank you very much for your constructive response.

    I hope he sees your comment and chimes in on this thread, though it seems more like this is turning into a popularity contest, not a thread about coins.
     
  8. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Okay I’ll bite. Your coin is not attractive and from the image it’s hard to tell anything. Sorry it’s what I see
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  9. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

    @352sdeer
    Thanks for proving me right... seems you are the troll not me... I am here talking coins... what are you doing?

    Can you address ANY of the coin related points being made? Do you have ANYTHING of value to add?

    Coin related that is.... who you love to pal around with is not my concern...
     
  10. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

    @352sdeer
    Sorry, the clutch of hens beat you to that observation. The conversation has moved on. The issue now is, if your comment is correct, please explain this

    http://www.monnaiesdantan.com/vso8/louis-demi-sol-aix-p1277.htm


    ... SAME EXACT ERROR.... admit it.... it is not a one off thing.... you guys are wrong. It has ZERO to do with the fact the coin is corroded, and yes, mine certainly is... You are worse than most, even with the evidence in front of you you carry on...

    God please send me someone who wants to discuss coins not some popularity contest with the "in crowd" here...
     
  11. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    As a new member of CT I an see how with only 160 or so posts you haven’t quite got it figured out yet so I recommend you not piss off the experts and be civil in your postings.
    Reed
     
  12. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

    @352sdeer You seem to have a fundamental reading issue.... unless you have something COIN RELATED, please do not post on my threads.....
     
  13. 352sdeer

    352sdeer Collecting Lincoln cents for 50 years!

    Ignore, but you wouldn’t know what that means being so new and all. Coin, coins and coinage
    goodbye.
    Reed
     
  14. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

    @352sdeer
    OMG.... do you think this is the only message board there is?
    I may be new to this one, but not new.

    Again, the forum here is coins, not who loves who...

    Thanks
    Gary
     
  15. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

  16. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    Mornin' all -

    I saw the two much nicer condition pieces in the links provided.

    Yes, I see the 'die bulge', or whatever it might be, on those two
    much higher grade pieces.

    The OP's coin, with all the corrosion, and bright photo, doesn't show
    the bulge anywhere near as prominent as the other two, although I now
    agree the three coins share the same defect.

    Although I was incorrect, my observations were based on your one photo,
    which was bright, your coin, which is corroded, and the area in question,
    which does not show in your photos anywhere near as well as the two other
    photos. The other two coin photos show the defect well.

    I was incorrect, but if you had posted the two other photos along with your
    coin, we all could have seen the relationship. Without the other two coins,
    not corroded, not badly lit, and with the same area showing up very well,
    I probably would have said the same about your coin in the photograph.

    Fred
     
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  17. Pondering_Infinity

    Pondering_Infinity Active Member

    @Fred Weinberg
    Thank you for you assessment.
    I only went looking for more examples after the "drama" here.

    In hand the coin looks much better than it does magnified... which is to say the corrosion is less noticeable via human eyesight. When magnified the corrosion is far more obvious.

    My theory is still collapsed die based on the fact that the O and V in LUDOV are not pressed into the bubble, but flow with it. I think if it were a planchet or flan problem the letters would press in or the die would have flattened the bulge.

    Just a theory of course.
    Thanks again
    Gary
     
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