An interesting Titus-time to count palmettes

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  1. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    In this series of Titus with the pulvinar and the triangular frame different numbers of palmettes appear on the reverse. It can be 3, 5, or 9. This one has 5. However, this coin comes in 2 sub varieties, with the lituus under the frame and without. As you can see there is a lituus under the frame. @David Atherton has one of these and contacted Ted Buttrey. This coin has been assigned 124A in the upcoming addenda to RIC II. All of the lituus varieties are rarer than the non lituus varieties.

    I also have the lituus variety for the 9 palmettes version. Also, I have the non lituus and lituus varieties for Domitian.


    Please post your coins of Titus.



    TITUS Auguste (79-81), AR denier, 80, Rome. D/ IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG PM· T. l. à d. R/ TR P IX IMP XV- COS VIII PP Siège carré dr., avec un dossier triangulaire, décoré de cinq palmettes. BMC 233, 61; RIC 124A. 3,23g. Beau à Très Beau/Beau (Fine - Very Fine/Fine)
    Purchased from Jean Elsen April 18, 2019.






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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Provincial coins with Titus are underappreciated. Let's show this provincial some love!

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    Titus and Domitian, Caesares, AD 69-81.
    Roman provincial Æ 18.5 mm, 5.14 g, 5 h.
    Lycaonia, Laodicea Combusta (Laodikeia Katakekaumene / Claudio-Laodicea).
    Obv: TITOC KAI ΔOMITIANOC KAICAΡEC, bare head of Titus right, facing bare head of Domitian left.
    Rev: KΛAYΔIO ΛAOΔIKЄѠN, Cybele, polos on head, seated left, holding patera and tympanum; lion beneath throne.
    Refs: RPC II 1613; von Aulock Lykaoniens 151; SNG von Aulock 8416; Waddington 4779; SNG France III 2322.
     
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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    Titus (79 - 81 A.D.)
    AR Denarius
    O: IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M•, laureate head right.
    R: TR P IX IMP XV COS VIII P P, facing empty throne of a deity (pulvinar) with a triangular back, back ornamented with uncertain objects and a cross at the peak, seat draped with a fringed cover.
    Rome Mint, 80 A.D.
    3.34g
    17.8mm
    RIC II, part 1, 124; RSC II 313a; BMCRE II 61; BnF III 50; SRCV I 2515
     
  5. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I'm glad you got one! And a solid example too.
     
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  6. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    It arrived today! Here is my photo.

    TItus RIC 124A new.jpg
     
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  7. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Glad to hear it arrived safe and sound!

    The inclusion of the lituus lends credence to these types being pulvinaria commemorating a religious ceremony. The million dollar question is what ceremony? Appeasement to the gods after the Vesuvian disaster, or for a more celebratory event - the opening games of the Colosseum?

    A clue perhaps lies with the same types found on RR coins and those struck later in the 2nd century. For what purposes were they issued?
     
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  8. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE


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    Lol, @Mat ... nope, THAT did not work!
     
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  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

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    Titus (79 - 81 A.D.)
    AR Denarius
    O: IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG P M•, laureate head right.
    R: TR P IX IMP XV COS VIII P P, facing empty throne of a deity (pulvinar) with a triangular back, back ornamented with uncertain objects and a cross at the peak, seat draped with a fringed cover.
    Rome Mint, 80 A.D.
    3.34g
    17.8mm
    RIC II, part 1, 124; RSC II 313a; BMCRE II 61; BnF III 50; SRCV I 2515
     
  10. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Titus. 79-81 AD. AR Denarius (3.51 gm). Rome mint. Struck 80 AD. Obv: Laureate head right. Rev: Ornamented throne with triangular back with 9 palmettes, and with lituus within triangle. RIC II 124a; BMCRE 58; RSC 313a. Light golden tone.
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  11. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    That coin is a stunner! Wow, what a portrait.
     
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    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

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  14. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Egypt, Alexandria
    Titus, Billon Tetradrachm

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  15. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Interesting write-up and nice examples. I have a cruddy one I am not entirely convinced is genuine - darkish and lightweight. I'm not sure if those are palmettes or something else (flames? - the one at the peak has a palmette-look, I think)[​IMG]:
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    Titus Denarius
    (80 A.D.)
    Rome Mint

    IMP TITVS CAES VESPASIAN AVG PM, laureate head right / TR P IX IMP XV COS VIII P P, throne with triangular frame decorated with nine palmettes (?).
    RIC 124; RSC 313a; BMC 61
    (2.76 grams / 19 mm)
     
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