My newest Morgan

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by John Skelton, Apr 12, 2019.

  1. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Distilled water has the least amount of parts per million and rinsing with it will ensure the least amount of particles remain on the coin. Absolutely rinse with distilled water at the end and set it on its edge to dry.
     
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  3. LuxUnit

    LuxUnit Well-Known Member

    I guess i'm wondering why not just acetone rinse it?
     
  4. MisterWD

    MisterWD Active Member

    When you are right and everybody else is wrong, it might just be time to stifle it and re-evaluate your position
     
  5. LA_Geezer

    LA_Geezer Well-Known Member

    @Kentucky taught me to do this. I have been with no problems. YMMV
     
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  6. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!


    I already have all the 1921 Morgans, and I got them for free.
     
  7. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    The thing is, you DID provide supporting evidence once I asked you for it, and I appreciated it. I just wanted it along with your original critique. That's all.
     
  8. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    And when did I say someone was wrong about the question I asked?
     
  9. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    I will do that, but does it have to be distilled water? Someone once said tap water was just as good.
     
  10. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    Thanks, I thought distilled water was best.

    And btw, I never asked for affirmation of the coin. In fact, I admitted I thought I paid too much for it. Never did say I thought it was perfect.
     
  11. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    But well done, and I thanked him for the information.
     
  12. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    Thanks for your words of encouragement. I have taken some hits, but I did ask for them, when I began to have doubts about the coin. I wanted criticism with full explanations and was given that, eventually with pictures showing what was being described as problem areas. When those who have more expertise than me (which I know is a lot of you here) respond, I don't expect them to show less respect than they show really new newbies.
     
  13. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    They all respect you but when you question their expertise and good advice you disrespect them. Then they won't respect anything you say after that. They may be blunt but dont mistake that for disrespect. It is almost a rite of passage to post a coin that gets ripped. It is something that all collectors have gone through. Learn and move forward! Happy collecting!
     
  14. Abcrider

    Abcrider Active Member

    Look- I’m a new newbie. I really don’t think at any level disrespect should be handed out. However, you need to figure out if the expert are disrespecting you because of your defensiveness. I seriously got trashed today and deserved it. I have alot to learn. However, I pulled up my big girl Panties and tried to get alittle better with my description. For them it’s not much of an improvement, but for me it is :) It’s a brutal forum my friend.
     
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  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    I have spoken in defense of tap water many times. Great for soaking and acceptable for rinsing with the caution that you should dry the coin on a soft cloth by folding the cloth over and under the coin and pressing it to remove the water.
     
  16. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    No. First of all, your question was “what do you think?” I could’ve simply answered “your coin is ugly and you overpaid” and it would have been an acceptable answer relative to the question you asked.

    Instead, I pointed out three things that would’ve given your coin a details grade (one might call that supporting evidence, not that I somehow have to prove myself to you, but it was a courtesy). I gave you a grade for the coin. I gave you advice on what to do with the coin and how to avoid bad purchases in the future.

    After you asked for clarification, I sat down and provided you extensive information, to include multiple photos.

    The way you pay me back for my efforts is to insult them and characterize them as “passing judgment without supporting evidence” and for not “making it a teaching moment”. Go read my first comment again. The only reason it wasn’t a teaching moment is because you didn’t want to listen.

    Now, I’m done hearing you whine about the help I offered you. You can either try to be a little more grateful and apologize for mischaracterizing my help to you, or I’ll put you on my ignore list and this will be the last thread/post of yours I read and the last time you get help from me. Based on your current attitude of “its only helpful if you prove to me what you say is true”, I have a feeling a good number of others will follow suit.
     
  17. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Concur. I will just say that my comments were directed at the coin and not the person. Any disrespect the OP felt was due to his connection to the coin and dismay at realizing it was a bad purchase.
     
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  18. John Skelton

    John Skelton Morgan man!

    I'll try to answer both of your posts.

    I did think my coin might have been a bad purchase, as I mentioned that in my OP. I realized from your first reply that you had seen more on the coin than I did. I just wanted to know what specifically you saw, and you provided that, for which I thanked you, because it gave me the teaching moment I asked for. I appreciate the effort it took to do that. I didn't mean to imply that you were wrong, just that I wanted to see what you saw. And you gave me that.

    I did wonder if maybe I'd made a bad buy. I asked this in my original post when I said "But I think I paid too much for the condition it's in." So when you told me what was wrong with it, I just wanted to know more because I know nothing about coins that might have been a part of jewelry. You showed me the indicators you saw. Maybe I could have worded my response better, and if you felt insulted, I do apologize. It wasn't my intent.

    Can we leave it at that?
     
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  19. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Hey, you are personalizing something that is common practice here. Even experienced collectors get their butt handed to them, sometimes. Heck, if I had a dollar every time someone ripped me for my opinions, I would own twice as many coins as I do now. This can be a brutally honest place. If one posts something that other members feel is dead wrong, misguided, stupid, or all of the above, expect criticism.

    Sometimes, it is gentle criticism, and sometimes it is of the “you jerk” variety. Folks around here are not personalizing things; they are being brutally honest. Sometimes, there are some ill feelings generated, but that is generally as a result of defensiveness. Hang around, take your lumps when you deserve it, and share in the wealth of information. I have been collecting for over 40 years, and have learned a lot from a great bunch of collectors. We all get our posteriors kicked sometimes—why not accept it, and be willing to do the “oh crap, I was wrong” thing that we all do?
     
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