AV Dukat Hesse-Kassel

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  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    My only coin from there.... IMG_0653.JPG IMG_0654.JPG
     
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  3. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    very nice coin. While looking it up in my 18th century Krause catalog under German States Nesse-Cassel there are 2 ND (No date) ones that look like yours....

    KM#392 with a weight of 3.5 grams of .986 gold
    or is it the ND
    KM#315 with a weight of 7 grams of .986 gold ?

    I am liking this color gold and purity of gold.
    What is the grade of this coin ?
     
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  4. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    what is the weight of your coin ?
     
  5. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks...

    I got this from Swiss auctionhouse "Hess Divo"
    They graded in as MS/UNC.

    Usually, this means MS-65 in TPG slabs. European tend to grade stricter. I have seen Kunker auction NGC MS-66 coin as a "fast St." About UNC>
    Weight: standard for Dukaten= 3.48g.
    John
     
  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    ok so KM#392. I always enjoy looking up the details of coins/research. How rare is this coin ? There is no mintage for this coin in my catalog.
     
  7. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Most had low mintages. I have only seen one other like it. I would say less then 10......there are 15+ 1933 Double Eagles to give a comparison.....
     
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  8. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    And, only one of them is legal to own. Not to mention the number of people who would like to own one is probably a million-fold over an 18th century German states small gold. Supply and demand, my friend. :D

    Nice coin, by the way.
     
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  9. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    Nice pick up
     
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  10. talerman

    talerman Well-Known Member

    Here is a another interesting Hesse-Cassel coin:

    Moritz der Gelehrte (The Learned) Taler 1626

    The reverse legend reads CONSILI_ET VIRTU_MON:NO:_AURE:IM (with prudence and effort, new imperial gold coin). However, the coin is silver ! It may have been struck from the die of a 10 ducat gold piece, although no such coin is known. Probably the gold coin was never struck because of the precarious political and military situation at the time. The Thirty Years' War was in full swing.

    Hesse-Cassel Taler 1626 Dav 6724 obv 186.jpg Hesse-Cassel Taler 1626 Dav 6724 rev 187.jpg
     
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  11. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    That is a BEAUTY!
    Wow, amazing piece:)
    Imagine the 10 Dukaten coin.....
     
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  12. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Had I been around in 1626 Hesse-Kassel I would have ordered freshly minted Thalers and that 10 Dukaten:)
    Cannot say the same for 2019, modern designs do not grab me.
     
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