What is stretch lettering called? 1978 D

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by i2i, Apr 6, 2019.

  1. i2i

    i2i Active Member

    Two 1978 D(?) one for comparison has damage that looks like a weak mint mark. The other has Looong lettering on half the reverse. There is evidence of a "strikethrough" but I dont want to offend anyone...
    The mint mark damage pic is in my reply.
     

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  3. i2i

    i2i Active Member

    Forgot this pic 20190406_155151.jpg
     
  4. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I've never heard the term "stretch lettering". From your photos I see old tired worn out dies that were used long past their life expectancy and circulation wear. Week strikes cause abnormal and fast wear. Since you did not show the obverse I would hazard a guess that most of them are zlincolns and that just adds to the problem.
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    The photo you just posted has 41 years of wear and tare on it. It's well circulated.
     
  6. i2i

    i2i Active Member

    It's a 1978. That's in the title.
    The C in cent is normal and the E is a mile long, right next to it.
     
  7. i2i

    i2i Active Member

    True. But how does that allow for the "C" to be normal sized and the "ENT" to be super long?
    Is this forum only for uncirculated coins?
     
  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Wear, 41 years of wear along with worn dies.
     
  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Can you tell us where you heard of stretch lettering?
    This is a well circulated 78 cent, and nothing else. Please tell us or show us where the undeniable strike through is?
     
  10. i2i

    i2i Active Member

    "What is stretch lettering called?"
    Its the TITLE of the thread. Geeze.

    Why do you people get so angry??
    I know I have a high IQ and am very logical. I know how to dismiss wear and identify abnormalities. I'm not going to immediately dismiss something because the penny is circulated.
    It's a given that it was circulated.
    If you are NOT open to scholarly discussion and want to twist my words, I'd prefer that you took your frustrations out on somebody else.
    Thanks!
     
  11. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor

    It is die deterioration damage. Even though the dies are tempered, after thousands of coin, the steel slowly deteriorates ( moving to the outer edges) and the letters appear elongate. Round tent stakes of air jumpers usually show such damage at the top of the stake. It doesn't a huge amount of force, just the force used to make a coin after maybe hundred of thousands of blows. Jim
     
  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    :hilarious:.. Funniest thing I read all day! Hahaha
     
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  13. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    There really aren't any frustrations, you may have those feelings,
    But, I guarantee you none of the posters that have attempted to help you learn haven't the frustrations either.

    I would like to see you bring some scholarly discussion, what has been told to you in the previous threads is ultimately the truth, it is your decision to either acknowledge what is spoke from years of accumulated knowledge or you can pack your bags and find another forum to try and give your mis information. We have spent years here trying to be the ones who educate, and with out a doubt what you think you know? Is Elementary.
    We see folks like you on a regular basis, one's that think they have a high IQ and scroll through some paper or written document and think that they know everything because that one thing told you some kind of gospel.
    Were you are completely mis understanding is any one can write some kind of nonsense and think that they are an author. If it isn't true then it needs to go in the burn barrel along with your ideas of being some kind of prodigy.

    I wish you luck in your future collecting, but learning means reading points of view and findings written by more than one author, teaching fallacies aren't gonna get you anywhere on CT.

    By the way a high IQ? I can only see that as your personal observation.
    It is not equated by the community.
     
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  14. Raizac

    Raizac Well-Known Member

    I have 3? 's for you
    1. what's your IQ number?
    2.how long have you been coin collecting hunting?"ie how many coins have you looked at"
    ((For me I have gone through like 10 boxes of Pennies, 4 box's of Nichols, 1 1/2 boxes of dimes 2 box's of quarters and 4 box's of half dollars 2,000+ dollars in ones 800 in 2 dollars 1,000 5.00 dollars )) and I am still new to this about 6 to 9 months
    3.what web sites do you look for information on coin errors

    All the coins you have shown CT have been normal coins worth face
    But all that said if you believe that you have a coin that's has an error you will need to send it in to be attributed and that requires money per coin of $5.00 + the cost of postage and insurance.
    but we here at CT are trying to prevent you form wasting your money this is NOTA GET RICH QUICK HOBBY finding errors that have a premium are very hard to come by and vice versa trying to find the perfect coin. it costs money to get coins graded/attributed.
    Most of us find errors and she/he/lgbq just put them in a 2x2 to add them to our collection and if he/she/lgbq find one that she/he are not sure of we post it to CT and ask the experts they have more yrs combined than just one person
     
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  16. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    I would reach out and make sure John Wexler is accepting new submissions, I've read he's been having some health problems.

    But I also wouldn't submit this coin... as said above, it's just struck with a deteriorated die and then damaged in circulation.

    There is an entire section here on die deterioration: https://www.error-ref.com/part_iv__die_errors/
     
  17. Trkdvr

    Trkdvr Active Member

    These guys on here have got years of coin collecting experience. They read the posts on this forum and give there opinions. They are not angry at you or anyone else. They state their opinions and tell you what they think. If there opinions appear to angry its probably because they might be having a bad day. Sometimes people get frustrated. People need to be able to take a little criticism. These guys and gals one here are very good at what they do.
     
  18. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    Not only that, some of them LITERALLY wrote the book. We have some of the top error dealers in the world sharing their wisdom for free. You know, when you send your error to PCGS or NGC, these are the people THEY send to coin to for an opinion...

    It's the beauty of the Internet:

    On the Internet, nobody knows you are a Cat; On the Internet, everybody knows your Cat.
     
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