Vatican City Medal

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by Razz, Apr 3, 2019.

  1. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    So I picked up a 1973 Vatican City mint set from the flea market for $2 and this Pope John Paul II medal was in the spot of the 1000 lira coin. I could not find anything out about this medal except some similar (without the Mother Mary and baby Jesus but a different design) selling on eBay. It is 13.7 g and 28.6 MM diameter. There appears to be a hallmark and Italy near the rim. Is this silver? Any information is appreciated. Thanks. PhotoEditor_20190403_191106549.jpg
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  3. stlnats

    stlnats Active Member

    Privately made souvenir medal with several different reverses mated to the same obverse type. In this case the Mary on the reverse is "Our Lady of Czestochowa" and refers to J P II's Polish heritage. Sellers make up "sets" of various inexpensive Vatican coins for sale to tourists. The 1973/Anno XI set in the red card contained a silver L 500 and I've seen this sort of substitution before. There's not a good reference for these but I think they are generally silver plated, especially since there's no fineness mark.
     
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  4. chrisild

    chrisild Coin Collector

    Most probably so. Then again, here is one where the seller says it is a silver ("Materiale: argento") medal ...

    Christian
     
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  5. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    I'm no expert in this category, but all of the Vatican issued coinage I've seen or owned has been very nicely detailed. This coin is rather crude by comparison, which leads me to believe it's a souvenir token . . . but I could be wrong!
     
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  6. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    It is a souvenir and not anything like the coinage of the Vatican City for sure. PhotoEditor_20190404_064232358.jpg PhotoEditor_20190404_064248841.jpg

    It is smaller diameter, but thicker and weighs more than a silver half dollar. Non magnetic so probably plated as mention above I can not match the mark to any Italian silver hallmark. Thanks for the insights!
     
  7. petronius

    petronius Duke

    In 1973, Pope was Paul VI. How could be possible that an official coin set of that year includes a medal with JPII? :rolleyes:

    petronius :cool:
     
  8. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    It's not. Check the first post again. The silver L 500 coin originally in that slot has been replaced with a token. If you google "1973 vatican coins" you can see the original.
     

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  9. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Don't know why that "Attached Files" window is in my post above. I didn't attach anything. The site must have had a hiccup.
     
  10. petronius

    petronius Duke

    I know, I'm Italian, my post was ironic ;)

    Ciao.
    petronius :)
     
  11. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Sorry. The irony did not come through in print.
     
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  12. Razz

    Razz Critical Thinker

    I caught the irony, which is that JPII did not become Pope until 5 years later, in October 1978...
     
  13. petronius

    petronius Duke

    No problem :)

    Ciao.
     
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