1964D Prooflike Quarter

What makes you think that I, or anyone else on this forum, aren't looking for the same thing?

 

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I am so confused it's not funny. Can someone tell me concisely what the question was? The PL designation has nothing to do with the grade whatsoever. It merely describes the depth of mirrors in the fields. It is independent of the grade. What does the distinction between MS/PF have to do with grading? Are you suggesting that since proof coins receive lofty grades because of unusually high levels of preservation that PL coins get special preference? What is @Hommer asking exactly? I'm sorry in advance if I missed it in the three dozen posts on the subject.

 

I have no idea what anyone is talking about anymore. They went around in circles for a few hours, and only wound up confusing themselves and everyone else.

If someone has a clear, concise question, please try asking it again and I will attempt to answer, or, we can leave this dead horse beaten in the road until next time.

 

I started it, mainly because I don't understand why we need to keep changing the grading system that we have. It gets confusing when you keep adding things that aren't removing or replacing something else. Almighty Morgan Collectors have driven the grading system for all others to follow. You know there are '64 buisness strike quarters, made with proof dies and the designation for that is type 2. So now add a PL to that one, A coin, struck with proof dies, which is prooflike, but is a business strike. Makes complete sense.

Edit to add: I don't dislike Morgan collectors, I own over a hundred myself.

 

Yes, there are 64 Business strike quarters made with proof reverse dies (the designation is actually Type B, but I'll let that slide). However, if you look closely at my coin, you'll see it is a Type A - not the proof die. (For a quick primer on how to easily tell, see here: http://doubleddie.com/286101.html )

However, it has mirrored, reflective surfaces. These mirrored surfaces are extremely unusual, and some people will pay a significant premium for them.

If you can't get on board with the PL designation, that's fine. I'm just trying to make sure you understand the difference and why some people feel they deserve a special designation. To me, it's in the same category as FH or FBL, or RD or RB - it gives searchers a bit more information about the coin, and lets me filter out exactly the ones I want. The grading system hasn't really changed - Morgan PL's have been recognized for generations. These type coin PL's are significantly less common, and so are not as widely understood.

 

I own a near complete set of mint state Washingtons including proofs and varieties. I know the series well. But I also know what die states are I think that is the problem you are having,

 

I posted a 1964 D type C reverse quarter on here less than a year or so ago and you had never heard of such a thing and thought the whole deal of different reverses was ridiculous, but I let that slide.

 

You sorta trailed off there.... usually a comma means that there is more to the sentence. Care to finish that thought?

As to die states, I'm perfectly well aware and familiar with them.

If I recall, I didn't immediately recognize the very minor variations in the reverse. I don't have every minor variation memorized. If I recall, I found your initial post very vague and confusing, and once others clarified it I understood the significance. And as I recall, we resolved that thread somewhat peacefully?

And I'm not entirely sure why you bring up Type C, because mine is clearly not a Type C. It is a Type A.

 

Alright, buddy. You want to play that way?

How about we link the whole thread: https://www.cointalk.com/threads/i-have-this-quarter.285763/

 

I was going through some of my collection and found this one. The surfaces read from a couple inches away.
2001D Kennedy
I really don't know how to photograph these but I gave it my best shot.

 

Now, now, let's keep personalities out of this...

 

This is a pretty good read.....

http://www.dmrarecoins.com/Jekyll-And-Hyde-Prooflikes.php