What is your oldest coin graded MS69?

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by mrbreeze, Dec 27, 2017.

  1. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    I am on the dole (unemployed) presently, and broke. When all this SNOW melts (2 feet in my backyard)!!!!! Then I can FINALLY go back to doing yardwork and make some serious $$$$ to buy more COINS:happy:!!!!
    Here are photos of my house, lovely Winter scene.... IMG_0040.JPG IMG_0041.JPG
     
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  3. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I wouldn't mind living your definition of "broke".
     
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  4. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    Would an ancient (circa 400 BC) MS 5/5; 5/5 qualify as an MS 69 on this thread:p?? If not, I only have a few lowly MS66s from the 17th century :( (1674/5).

    I doubt if many mints had the quality control or equipment to strike MS69 grade coins going back 150 years. 66 or 67 is all I've seen...… but maybe I move in lowly circles in the world of numismaticso_O

    Here's an MS66 1674 Moghul dynasty mohur from the reign of Aurangzeb, year 19
    1674 Aurangzeb MS66.jpg

    1674 Aurangzeb Rev MS66.jpg
     
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  5. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice one....1934 Wreath Crown!

    I think an ancient graded FDC by CNG might qualify, since their CH- EF graded coins turn up at later auctiond TPG as MS-65!!!!!!
    Here is my CNG graded FDC Aureus Diocletian. IMG_0021.JPG IMG_0023.JPG
     
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  6. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    John hope you've got plenty of supplies stocked away:D

    Where do you store the Corvette??;)
     
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  7. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    In my garage under a protective cover. Do not get much time to ever drive it, I work sunup to dark 7 days a week. Last year, I only had 7 months to work, snow came early (Nov. 8th) Almost five months with snow on ground....
    John

    PS: Seems mindblowing to see your Mohur, struck so long ago, yet in great state of preservation. You never see Zodiac Mohurs in MS-66!
     
  8. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    Well in that case here's my Phoenician shekel 400-340BC in MS 5-5. Haven't seen any graded higher but if anyone has, please can you send me the details. Thanks

    Phoenicia Byblus Ozbal Shekel Obv.jpg

    Phoenicia Byblus Ozbal Shekel Rev.jpg
     
  9. 1934 Wreath Crown

    1934 Wreath Crown Well-Known Member

    A Jehangir zodiac in MS66....now that will cost a pretty penny!!!
     
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  10. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    That Diocletian aureus never fails to blow my mind every time I see it. I put it up there with @AncientJoe's beautifully toned Vespasian aureus from the Boscoreale Hoard as one of my favorite "other people's coins".

    Speaking of @AncientJoe and the Colosseo Collection, and early supergrade stuff (Ch MS; 5/5, 5/5), I just parted with this piece I got from him. @kazuma78 owns it now. I shall miss it dearly, but it helped pay some bills.

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  11. kazuma78

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    It's a fantastic coin, I cant wait to show it to some of my family who share an interest in history/coins
     
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  12. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    PS- WOW.
     
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  13. kazuma78

    kazuma78 Supporter! Supporter

    Wow, that is awesome. Fantastic piece.
     
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  14. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Thanks Lordmarcovan:happy: Its a real crapper, when you have to sell such a gorgeous coin to pay bills:( Talking about paying bills, hopefully all the snow around here will melt away, so I can go back to work and make $ again;) I have been off work since November 5th.:yawn: Still cool here, 4 celsius.
    John
     
  15. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    Thanks LM! And I'm glad the drachm is still in the CoinTalk "family".
     
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  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

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    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    (* Please ignore minor thread hijack - resume topic)
     
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  18. Rexford

    Rexford Well-Known Member

    Just adding on, I wouldn't count ancients here, as they can't accurately be graded on a numerical scale due to their age and method of striking. But hypothetically I would consider an NGC MS equivalent to about MS60-MS63, an NGC Choice MS equivalent to about MS63-MS65, and an NGC Gem MS equivalent to about MS65-MS67.
     
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  19. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I've never seen the Gem MS designation on an NGC Ancients holder (indeed, didn't know it existed), but I suppose that shouldn't be surprising, as they are probably as rare as the proverbial hen's teeth.
     
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  20. Rexford

    Rexford Well-Known Member

    I've seen a few before, they're hard to find but not as uncommon as you might think. I think they are all given 5/5 5/5 designations (would be weird to have lower and still be Gem). I've seen only one Gem 5/5 5/5 in hand that also had a star for eye appeal; those are the REALLY rare ones. That piece would easily be an MS67 or MS68 in modern terms, and may have been struck as some sort of specimen - it really was hard to believe in hand. It sold for many times what a normal Mint State piece would have, in a Heritage auction last year: https://coins.ha.com/itm/byzantine/...mbnail-022817&tab=ArchiveSearchResults-012417.
     
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