Wow +, ★ and Cameo

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  1. Endeavor

    Endeavor Well-Known Member

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  3. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Along with the huge scratch down her cheek???

    Admittedly, I know nothing about grading this series.
     
  4. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    At least you know what you don't want to pay for . . .
     
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  5. wxcoin

    wxcoin Getting no respect since I was a baby

    I've seen better looking cameos without the +*; and without the scratch.
     
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  6. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    And it even has a green bean!

    Is this an April Fool's day joke?
     
  7. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    CAC too. Any chance scratch is on slab, not coin?

    Cal
     
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  8. furham

    furham Good Ole Boy

    Surely the scratch is on the slab.
     
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  9. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    Finally, some folks who say J.A. doesn't know all.
     
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  10. CircCam

    CircCam Victory

    It’s in the NGC cert photo as well. Have to think it was as-struck, still detracts from the eye appeal.
     
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  11. Shrews1994

    Shrews1994 Collecting is my passion.

    That's not a shield nickel though... It's a liberty head nickel... Am I missing something? Cause that's what it shows.
     
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  12. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    No, you're not missing anything. The rest of us all missed that the OP called it a shield not a liberty nickel, though.
     
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  13. Don P

    Don P Active Member

    to bad they couldn't use an exclamation mark PF67 !!!!!
     
  14. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    I agree, it looks like the shadow cast from a slab scratch.
     
  15. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    I have been one of those folks for a while and have taken lots of heat for it. Another aspect of the “CAC perfection syndrome” is the claim that CAC has reviewed EVERY COIN beyond a certain value, like $2,500. Therefore any coin on that level or above that does not have a sticker is over graded or has a problem.

    All of this has prompted me to raise the white flag. I don’t buy U.S. coins any more, despite the fact that there are some collecting projects that interest me. When you have to have ONE MAN determine which coins are good and therefore should get into your collection, that is not a healthy market.

    Here is Liberty Nickel With Cents that is my collection. NGC graded it PR-66, CAM, no star, no CAC. I like it better than the 1903 that appears at the beginning of this string, but what do I know?

    1909 Nickel O.jpg 1909 Nickel R.jpg
     
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  16. Penna_Boy

    Penna_Boy Just a nobody from the past

    Beautiful coin. Thanks for sharing it. Well worth PR-66
     
  17. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    The 1909 Proof Liberty Nickel is the most common Proof in the Liberty Nickel series. Why? The reason is that the Lincoln Cent was introduced that year. The minor Proof coins were usually issued as sets. Therefore to get the cents, you had to buy a nickel at the same time. Therefore if you wanted all three of the cents that year, Indian, Lincoln VDB and Lincoln Plain, you had to buy another nickel.

    The Proof mintages are interesting:

    1909 Indian 2,175
    1909 Plain 2,618

    Total 4,793

    1909 Proof Nickel 4,763

    According to the newer Red Books, the Proof mintage for the 1909 VDB was 1,194. Looking back at the old Red Books (I pulled a 1965 at random) it was 420. Confused? So am I. Maybe someone can explain the new numbers.
     
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  18. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    I can't get past the scratch on the cheek, either. This must otherwise be absolutely stunning in hand, otherwise, I'd call it more of a PR65@#! CAM.
     
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  19. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    Grading high MS coins from pictures is a fools errand.
     
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  20. Tater

    Tater Coin Collector

    If it is on the coin from the photos it looks like it is raised and not dug into the coin. Could it be a crack or die scratch/gouge? Or is it a shadow from the slab?
     
  21. johnmilton

    johnmilton Well-Known Member

    Even if the scratch is on the slab, which it must be (What legitimate grader would give a coin with a scratch like the 67 grade?) the white toning on the piece would be enough to remove it from my consideration at that grade level.
     
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