A question regarding PMG/PCGS Unc grading

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  1. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    now if you want to go the extra mile heres a 69 !
     
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  3. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  4. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

  5. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Perfect centering front to back and side to side, but honestly 68-70
    Grades are so very close its hard to tell them apart, only the well trained
    Eye...LOL
     
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  6. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Thanks MPC....I checked a few of mine, the margins aren't really that egregious. Upon checking closer, the back on one of the SCs has fatter top/bottom margins than right/left but it wasn't egregious. Very very marginal, IMO. Maybe I'll upload the 66 pics here or on another thread, front-and-back, and you can comment.

    What's somewhat strage is that the 66 has the EPQ designation but the 68 does not.
     
  7. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I would like to see both of those PPQ Or EPQ is simply the paper quality but
    68 should always have that on it, now you got me curious...LOL
     
  8. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    Here you go...front/back of the PMG 66 1957 SC and front/back of a PMG 68 1957B SC.

    Tell me where the 2 grade difference is coming from. Grading isn't my strength but I'm surprised it's not jumping out at me.
     

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  9. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    Very nice collection Rusty.

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
  10. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    The cert on the PMG site says it is a 68EPQ.
     
  11. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    My SC ? It doesn't say it on the PMG insert like the 66 does.

    Check out the photos.
     
  12. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    Yes, your note. Go to the PMG website and input the cert number from the back. it comes up as 68EPQ.
     
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  13. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    I have never seen a 68 without the designation PPQ or EPQ, with a 68 thats
    a given, i have seen a few 67,S and lower with out it though.
     
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  14. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Thanks Mike :)
    I think i short changed you, here,s a couple more nice ones from my collection


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  15. midas1

    midas1 Exalted Member

    They are knocks outs!!!
     
  16. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    So what you are saying is I have a PMG Error encasing.

    I will start the bidding at $12,000....:D

    It's either an oversight or someone (a substitute grader that day ?) at PMG figured that a 68 grade implied PPQ/EPQ. Ditto with a 69 or 70, I guess.

    It is weird. Maybe I'll reach out to PMG.
     
  17. GoldFinger1969

    GoldFinger1969 Well-Known Member

    What about the grades of the two 1957's, 68 vs. 66 ?
     
  18. SteveInTampa

    SteveInTampa Always Learning

    PMG didn’t always use EPQ.

    Notes must qualify for PMG’s Exceptional Paper Quality designation (EPQ) to be graded 65 and higher. Very early PMG notes do not have the designation, and can be resubmitted ($5) and reholdered.
     
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  19. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    The foil seal on the front is a indication of a older holder, so its probably
    Just that, but if the serial number is coming EPQ on PMG site then its time to
    Ask some questions.
     
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  20. lettow

    lettow Senior Member

    No, that foil seal is a sticker from RQN. RQN (Review Quality Notes) is a company that tries to be the paper money equivalent of CAC.
     
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  21. mpcusa

    mpcusa "Official C.T. TROLL SWEEPER"

    Tries to be..., i think they need to try harder...LOL
     
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