Strike thru screw

Discussion in 'Coin Roll Hunting' started by Scubalou, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    I should not comment but its hard not to.
    Many members have given you Logical explanations for what You and You alone are seeing, these may not fit what You want to hear but you need to remember that these are Logical explanations where as Yours is not.
    I don't know the size of a Dime but I am sure one of the American members can give an idea of the screws size based on your thought, pretty sure it would be Tiny and would have left a lot more damage than you are showing.
    Just my 2p worth, not having a go.
     
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  3. Scubalou

    Scubalou Well-Known Member

    O.K., that was the best I could do. Sorry.
     
  4. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    It is damage!!!
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Nothing to be sorry about, just listen to what us older collectors are saying. We have been doing this a long time.
     
  6. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    No problem. My apologies for bothering.
     
  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    If you really think it's an error, spend the $50+ and send it off to a TPG. We are just offering opinions based on experience and knowledge. Your choice, but without authentication who would be interested in buying it?
     
  8. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    Best Answer!
     
  9. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    damage
    you want to convert damage to something that you recognize with.
    The shape so happens to convince you that it is a screw (your bias in explaining that it is something you recognize)

    A screw isn't flat but is circular in a conical way.
    It could have been flattened I guess .. but it still has height, and would either (a) prevent the rest of the die from hitting the planchet, or (b) have a large indent into the die. That indent would take volume to fill and the rest of the coin would then thus would probably be a weak strike.

    Of course the die hardness compared to a screw is another issue altogether ...

    But .. it's damage anyways that has you convinced that it's a flatten screw.

    To me, it looks *exactly* like the Rod of Asclepius, which I guarantee you with my personal bias that it is more correct than a screw.
     
  10. Scubalou

    Scubalou Well-Known Member

    Please don't think I don't appreciate your input, I do. I'm not interested in selling the coin. I was just trying to share what I found. From here I can plainly see what I believe is a small screw. I've contacted MDC to submit this with a couple of die clash Lincoln's I have. I can see that my pics don't seem to do the coin justice, in my opinion. If MDC accepts the coin I will post those results, whatever they are. Thank you all for your comments.
     
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  11. CoinCorgi

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  12. slackaction1

    slackaction1 Supporter! Supporter

    That's Good Scoobie There is a guy on here that's always flipping a coin in the air he is an Error Professional …...He has more errors than all MLB teams together.. These guys are just as informative as any of the COIN GRADING COMPANY. I personally don't know any of them.... but most of the time ………… there spot on..
     
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  13. Scubalou

    Scubalou Well-Known Member

    O.K., I sent Jason Cuvelier a pic of this dime as well as a couple of Lincoln's he said: I agree the '83 had at least two successive clash events - it however may not be in good enough shape to find evidence of a counterclash - which would be nice. I think I have too many '83s listed - if I delist some maybe. The '99 is probably not strong enough. With my last conversation with Mike Diamond we agreed that I shouldn't expand the TDC section. If I get some help with the site, if that person wishes to expand that section the '99 would fir in there.
    The dime I am not sure about. The images aren't suggesting one thing or another. If you're implying an exotic struck through I'd be surprised there wasn't an area that was weakly struck from the depth of an object essentially clogging the die. Foreign objects tend to do that, even something like thick wire. Fibers don't do that. A small screw should though. Maybe more pics?
    I sent a couple more pics but haven't heard back. My theory is that a screw fell onto a planchet and was struck leaving the impression of a screw on the die. This coin was struck sometime later leaving an impression on the coin. I know it's a stretch and understand the position is suspicious. Here's a couple of pics with my new camera. This case is closed for me, thanks for your opinions. Lou
     

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  14. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    You can lead a horse to water !!!
     
  15. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Yes.. Please let us know.

    But as mentioned.. It is just damage.
     
  16. Double Die

    Double Die I know just enough to be dangerous

    Let's throw this into the mix...

    I think it could have come into contact with another reeded edge coin right on the brow. This would leave an impression resembling what the OP is seeing. The spaces are too wide and shallow to be made from a screw at high pressure.
     
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  17. FooFighter

    FooFighter Just a Knucklehead Coin Hunter

    Maybe Press Roosevelt had stitches the day he posed for that pic. Lol Yea these guys know what they are talking about, whether it pisses me off or not, I have tremendous respect for them. They always poo poo my error coins too, but hey, that's how we learn, right?
    Anyways don't get mad, keep searching.
    Later Dug out,,,,,, get it?!?
     
  18. Scubalou

    Scubalou Well-Known Member

    You guy will really like the next dime I post. Coming soon, I promise.
     
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  19. Scubalou

    Scubalou Well-Known Member

    Thanks FooFighter. I really don't get mad, just frustrated. I know what I see and I know how hard it is to see just in pics. I've moved on, I'll keep the dime. I actually do appreciate the interactions here. The more I know the more I know nothing. lol
     
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