Another bad apple at the USPS . . .

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  1. CoinCorgi

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  3. Stevearino

    Stevearino Well-Known Member

    Or the personal interest of the scan-operator :bigtears::woot:

    Steve
     
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  4. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    I see now on the mail boxes near where I live, new notices advising people not to put mail in the boxes in the afternoons/evenings/nights due to theft from the boxes. Thieves apparently insert something long with a glue or something at the end and fish out mail from the mail boxes. So better to put mail in boxes in the morning when streets are busier and when mail pick up is expected.

    (sigh)
     
  5. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Yes, on Express Mail but I think it's only a Hundred unless you pay for more.
     
  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    AU is the symbol for Gold so these would be gold coins, not the retail value.
     
  7. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Every parcel is scanned by the Postal Service. Not for x-ray but to get the addresses on film. This process can be quite useful to locate a missing package but a Postmaster must know who to talk to at the District level where the film is stored.
     
  8. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Those are the denominations. Having a "Homer Simpson" moment, eh?
    I do also now and then.
    Doh!
     
  9. Maxfli

    Maxfli Well-Known Member

    Shipped a watch once that was stolen in transit (not an expensive one; under $500 in value). 100% certain it never got beyond the main sorting facility in Raleigh. Fortunately insured, but it's still a really crappy feeling when things happen that make us lose faith in our institutions.
     
  10. baseball21

    baseball21 Well-Known Member

    100 for express 50 for priority. Anything more you have to pay extra
     
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  11. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Sorry, in the context of our discussion, I assumed everyone would realize I meant x-ray rather than scan. I forgot that "scanning" is such a prolific operation in the postal system.
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    I knew what you meant I just didn't want to muddy the waters for those that didn't.
     
  13. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    Registered mail only for that type of transaction.
     
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  14. abuckmaster147

    abuckmaster147 Well-Known Member

    USPS customs in NY. Never to be seen or scanned again.
     
  15. calcol

    calcol Supporter! Supporter

    It's all digital; no film. Stored on multiple servers in different locations.
    Cal
     
  16. calcol

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    Best Answer
    You've mentioned this before, and it deserves more emphasis. A great advantage of private insurance is that when you ship a package, you put a big fat ZERO in the value slot on the form. Insurance companies (at least mine) make this a condition for the package to be covered.

    With a stated value of zip, larceny minded employees of USPS or other carriers aren't going to give it a second look unless you give clues. Be careful what you say to the clerk. They aren't supposed to ask what's in the package other than going the through the litany of forbidden and special items. If they should ask specifically, say "business papers", which won't be a lie because you will have included some correspondence too. Destination and return addresses should not indicate coins, precious metals, collectibles, grading, etc.

    Be careful about your choice of shipping box. Carrier-supplied boxes are fine and so are plain boxes. Think twice about re-using boxes that originally carried merchandise. An Amazon, Dell, Samsung, Apple, etc. logo on a box will get the attention of thieves. Another clue would be a dense package (high weight for the volume). If you're going to ship 20 gold Eagles, put them in a big box! It'll cost a little more, but carrier employees won't have precious thoughts when they lift it.

    I would guess the chances of a package being x-rayed are pretty slim; the daily volume is too large. Chances are likely increased if it's from certain zip codes or destined for certain zip codes. Send something to a government office in DC or a military base, and it's likely to be x-rayed. Some sorting facilities may use automated sniffers for explosives or drugs. If one of these raises an alarm, the package will be x-rayed and may be opened. Don't reuse boxes that formerly contained chemicals, medicine, fireworks or ammo. The x-ray machines are digital, and the digital images will be kept for a while.

    When feasible, ship smart. Ideally, the only ones who should have a clue about what's in the box are you, your insurer and the recipient.

    Cal
     
  17. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator

    Despite no question having been asked, the preceding post has been nominated for Best Answer.

    Thanks for putting in the time Cal.

    - Mike
     
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  18. Randy Abercrombie

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    Automated sniffers are very real. I hired a cargo carrier to deliver a load of construction materials to a site on a nuclear facility. Immediately the security force converged and took control of the cargo truck at the entry. Come to find out prior to my shipment, he delivered a load of fertilizer. And apparently fertilizer is a component favored by bomb makers. And the facility sniffers nailed it. Made for one exciting day to be certain.
     
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  19. CoinCorgi

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    ANFO - ammonium nitrate and fuel oil is the explosive. Fertilizer is the ammonium nitrate part.
     
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  20. calcol

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    ANFO (ammonium nitrate fuel oil) is one of the most common industrial explosives. It's pearls of AN drenched in diesel fuel. AN is a common fertilizer, but fertilizer-grade AN requires additional purification to be suitable for explosive use. If you should accidentally spill diesel fuel on fertilizer, it's extremely unlikely to be explosive. Even properly prepared ANFO requires detonating caps.

    In addition to industrial use, ANFO has been used in terrorist bombs, one of the most infamous being the Oklahoma City bombing.

    Cal
     
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  21. Hookman

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    Are ya'll aware that our gov has software programs that sift through EVERY word and phrase written on the internet and even in personal emails, for the very words used in the posts above?
    The automated systems find the words, alert humans, who look at the source(s) and *hopefully* make the right decision about who or what is a threat and who or what is not.

    The automated program used to be called "Carnivore". They update it so often that I have no idea what it's called nowadays, but you can bet it works really, really well.
     
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