Meow thinks this may be a die clash

Can you show the entire coin, both sides.

If it's clashed on one side ... then the clash should have identifiable marks related to the other side, which may be clashed too.

Without seeing the entire coin front and back .. who knows without spending additional time checking into other pictures of a similar, though not exact, coin (or someone is experienced with this coin & clashes).

 

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Chris

 

Do you have the disregard Feline feature engaged?

 

Tis difficult to photograph in a way the details show the anomalies zoomed out. Meow also does not notice anything at all odd about the obverse.

 

I see normal circulation wear.

 

you have to remember, a die clash is when the two dies smash into each other without a planchet present. So ... if two dies SMASH into each other, more likely than not, both sides will get damaged from it. So ... both sides may have indicators of the other side.

If you have to zoom in microscopically to show an anomaly .. then maybe it's not really there and it's "something" else ?

but if you think it's a die clash, then shouldn't George have indications of it too ? Unless, of course, one of the dies was changed out. But you should be able to identify lines, etc related to the other side.

and on top of it, remember these coins are made for commerce *not* for quality. Ever wonder why you find change in change, and not hermetically sealed containers to preserve quality?

 

Meow is thinking maybe if it was a die clash the details of the clash are hidden by the design of the obverse. As on the reverse the clash shows because the center has some flat blank fields within the sun. But yea, since it is so hard to show, it is not much of showpiece to begin with.

 

No.. It's not a Die Clash.. Leave it alone

 

The OP is the guy who only refers to himself as a 3rd person cat. You probably put him on ignore a while back like some of other members

 

rather than *hope* it is
look at the indicators (or lack thereof).
PROVE that it is. If you can't, then it isn't.

ie .. eliminate any bias you may have.

 

Here I go playing Devil's advocate..(you're welcome , Meow)... If you look at the right side of George's neck, about even with the middle of his pony tail, you can see a curved line that is visible, that you could say is in the shape of a half of a potato. Then look down at the bottom of his neck on the left and you see two vertical lines, one longer than the other.
Now, keep those images in mind and return to the reverse, and compare the curved shape, from the front, to the curved line on the state shape( I believe it's a river ) and compare the two straight lines, from the front, to the straight lines of the flag design just beneath the 91 in 1912.

It would help to see this juxtaposition if the right-side-up image of the front were side-by-side with the upside-down image of the reverse.

The distance from the "potato" curve to the straight lines on the front, is about the same distance from the river curve to the straight lines under the 91 in 1912.

Conceivably, these marks could be evidence of a die clash.

The difficulty is making the comparisons. I wish that I had the capability (knowledge? ability? ) to manipulate the images into the correct positions for this comparison, and to mark the "lines" that I'm speaking of.

And of course, there is also the inevitable circulation wear evident on virtually every coin found CRH.

 

Thanks for your input, Meow is not sure Meow can see anything really of note on the obverse related to a die clash. Meow did however discover that there is a die chip in the B of Liberty. It maybe minor but Meow can see very small lumps, curves, and lines on the flat floor of the sun. Sort of how die clashes look. Meow still purring over the silver quarter Meow found. So at least there's that.

 

Meow has got ya now! Meow was just sorting through the months finds and came across the die clashed Bicentennial quarter Meow found and posted here. The reverse is undeniably clashed, yet Meow cannot find any evidence of it on the obverse. So according to you that cant happen, but it has.
https://www.cointalk.com/threads/die-clashed-bicentennial-quarter.333526/

 

I didnt say it can't happen
Reread what i typed
Slowly, one sentence at a time.

 

Oh, OK.

 

meow meow meow meow any rmeowza relation to morriss maybe?

 

You’ve likely ignored someone. Scroll to the bottom and click “show ignored content”

 

just in case you need help ....

but if you think it's a die clash, then shouldn't George have indications of it too ? Unless, of course, one of the dies was changed out. But you should be able to identify lines, etc related to the other side.

so yes, normally when the dies collide they both will have a clash to some extent.
But, let's say one got "damaged" too much and the technician decided to replace one of the dies,
then only one will have the clash for a short time until that is changed out too.