I know this is 99.999% a counterfeit, but a guy is selling this in a lot of old coins for a few bucks. I’m waiting on more pics, weight, etc. Is it even worth getting my hopes up? Or should I go back to playing the powerball?
If it sounds too good to be true, you can bet your sweet bippy that the Powerball is the best option. FYI - It's at $750 million for the Wednesday drawing. Chris
Yeah I’d think the lettering would be more worn, and that the ding dong selling would do at least a quick google search. It’s the most decent fake I’ve seen in a while, I’ll keep on looking for my retirement plan. Thanks.
+1 to the above. However, if it's not being sold by a front for the Chinese counterfeiters. and it is truly just a couple of bucks, and the OTHER stuff is worth the "few bucks" then go for it, but use it as a filler, properly labeled as a copy. Steve
After the Dupont robbery, there were a couple of them that disappeared from sight for a while, but both of those coins have been recovered. One of them was really banged up and in low grade BTW. The specialists grade it “Fine.” If it were a regular bust dollar, it would be close to a “cull.” There are no “discovery pieces” left to find. Here is a photo of what most would call the poorest known genuine 1804 Dollar
Here is close to an 1804 Dollar as most any of us are ever going to get. And here is another one, the 1804 British Bank Dollar. These were struck of the Spanish 8 reale coins.
The number struck was not definitively recorded (to my knowledge), so one could show up... But this coin is 100% fake, no doubt about it.
Even if it was mint records back then were hardly conclusive. We've seen many differences in what the records say compared to what actually happened.
The chances of a dozen generations of humans existing for 215 years and not one of them noticed this rare and valuable coin until you came along one day scrolling thru Ebay auctions is the same odds of winning Powerball for 215 years in a row.
Yeah, I think there is a gray area of what is the ethical thing to do: buy a counterfeit and reward the crooks or use the counterfeit to teach others about what NOT to buy. I think a good argument can be made for either choice. In this particular case, is the crook/counterfeiter being rewarded? The fake dollar may be several "transactions" away from the original counterfeiter. If bought to teach others does it really reward the counterfeiter? MANY of us on CT, I would guess, possess counterfeits, modern or ancient, contemporary or not. Somewhere I have a half dollar and buffalo nickel made of lead. I didn't buy them, my father somehow got them more than 60 years ago, probably someone who passed them to a young waitress in my parents' cafe as they are clearly poor examples. Would ANY of us who possess these counterfeits give them up? Throw them? Steve
Big difference between a modern fake of an old coin and a contemporary counterfeit that circulated around the time...