To star or not to star - official game thread

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  1. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    San Diego deserves a star
     
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  3. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    I'm a no star on the San Diego. If the toning would have been even, I would have said yes. Fantastic example!
     
  4. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    I’ll let this continue until later this evening.
     
  5. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    The San Diego does have a star. It is different than most others that I have seen and I found it to be quite attractive. Still I was split on the star and would likely lean towards no star.

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  6. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary:
    Rd. 1: 1955-S MS 64 1c (NO Star) --> Should it star? -->Yes: 2 vs No: 11

    Rd. 2: 1885-O MS 65 $1 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 3: 1813 50c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 9

    Rd. 4: 1835 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

    Rd. 5: 1821 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 4

    Rd. 6: 1947-D 5c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 6 vs No: 2

    Rd. 7: 1882-S $1 MS 63 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 8

    Rd. 8: 1882-S $1 MS 67 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

    Rd. 9: Darth Morgan (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 10: 1820 Cent (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

    Rd. 11: Swiss Silver (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

    Rd. 12: 1940 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 13: Israel Lira (NO Star*^) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 0

    Rd. 14: 1937-D 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:2 vs No: 0

    Rd. 15: 1885 Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 12

    Rd. 16: 1958-D Franklin (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 7

    Rd. 17: 1958-D Franklin #2 (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

    Rd. 18: 1958-D Franklin #3 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

    Rd. 19: 1881-S Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 20: 1884-O Morgan (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

    Rd. 21: 1874 PF Trade Dollar (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

    Rd. 22: 1964 Kennedy (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 7

    Rd. 23: 1958-D Franklin (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:6 vs No: 3

    Rd. 24: San Diego Commem (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 5

    Totals:
    No Star currently on holder, but deserves it: 5
    No Star currently on holder and doesn't deserve it: 9
    Star currently on holder and deserves it: 4
    Star currently on holder, but doesn't deserve it: 6
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    Non-toned/PL category:
    ~ 1871 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 1
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    *^ = signifies a coin that was most likely graded before the star designation was used for its respective series
     
  7. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Floor is open...
     
  8. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I don't think I've posted this one yet:

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  9. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Yes, star on the Morgan. The reverse works for me!
     
  10. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Yes for the Star
     
  11. thomas mozzillo

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  12. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    certainly a star
     
  13. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    I don't know, the hits on her face and the field in front of her face are distracting to me. No star.
     
  14. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Star the morgan. I'll bet the reverse is showing on the label side of the holder, not the obverse.
     
  15. physics-fan3.14

    physics-fan3.14 You got any more of them.... prooflikes?

    I've seen a couple of people say this in this thread. While contact marks can affect eye appeal if they are significant, widespread, or quite large, contact marks and eye appeal are usually evaluated separately. The star is for exceptional eye appeal - so even an MS-60 coin (which has a significant number of generally large marks) can still have good eye appeal. There was an MS-60 coin a few pages ago with a star. So, contact marks don't really affect the star.

    This particular coin is graded MS-65 *, Binion. It absolutely deserves the star - in hand, the luster is quite a bit stronger than these pictures show.
     
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  16. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    +1
     
  17. BuffaloHunter

    BuffaloHunter Short of a full herd Supporter

    I was not aware of that. With that said, I would be a star on the Morgan.
     
  18. EyeAppealingCoins

    EyeAppealingCoins Well-Known Member

    1886 Morgan - Star

    I do not think the San Diego, 58-D Franklin, 64 JFK, or Trade Dollar deserve a star although I found all of them to be attractive.
     
  19. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    That is very true.

    And I thought that the coin might look better in hand (luster is difficult to capture). Plus, for a Binion coin, this is up there with some of the best that I have seen (in terms of toning).
     
  20. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Summary:
    Rd. 1: 1955-S MS 64 1c (NO Star) --> Should it star? -->Yes: 2 vs No: 11

    Rd. 2: 1885-O MS 65 $1 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 3: 1813 50c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 9

    Rd. 4: 1835 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

    Rd. 5: 1821 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 4

    Rd. 6: 1947-D 5c (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 6 vs No: 2

    Rd. 7: 1882-S $1 MS 63 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 0 vs No: 8

    Rd. 8: 1882-S $1 MS 67 (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 8

    Rd. 9: Darth Morgan (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 10: 1820 Cent (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 2 vs No: 5

    Rd. 11: Swiss Silver (NO Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 1 vs No: 4

    Rd. 12: 1940 50c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 13: Israel Lira (NO Star*^) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 4 vs No: 0

    Rd. 14: 1937-D 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:2 vs No: 0

    Rd. 15: 1885 Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 12

    Rd. 16: 1958-D Franklin (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:0 vs No: 7

    Rd. 17: 1958-D Franklin #2 (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

    Rd. 18: 1958-D Franklin #3 (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

    Rd. 19: 1881-S Morgan (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:4 vs No: 3

    Rd. 20: 1884-O Morgan (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:5 vs No: 2

    Rd. 21: 1874 PF Trade Dollar (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 6

    Rd. 22: 1964 Kennedy (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 7

    Rd. 23: 1958-D Franklin (No Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:6 vs No: 3

    Rd. 24: San Diego Commem (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes:1 vs No: 5

    Rd. 25: 1886 $1 (Star) —> Should it star? —> Yes: 7 vs No: 0

    Totals:
    No Star currently on holder, but deserves it: 5
    No Star currently on holder and doesn't deserve it: 9
    Star currently on holder and deserves it: 5
    Star currently on holder, but doesn't deserve it: 6
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    Non-toned/PL category:
    ~ 1871 5c (Star) —>Should it star? —> Yes: 5 vs No: 1
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    *^ = signifies a coin that was most likely graded before the star designation was used for its respective series
     
  21. ddddd

    ddddd Member

    Floor is open
     
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