A novel way to determine authenticity

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Silverlock, Mar 19, 2019.

  1. Silverlock

    Silverlock Well-Known Member

    I was watching an episode of America’s Lost Vikings for some reason, possibly because my IQ dropped so much from even the briefest exposure to the show while flipping by that I lost the ability to operate the remote. Whatever the reason, the cast was endeavoring to determine if a Viking coin allegedly found in Maine was indeed ancient.

    The technique they used was based on the thickness of the patina. Fake coins, they argued, would have a patina of even thickness. Coins that had been in ground a while and patinated naturally would have a patina of uneven thickness. They used some type of poorly described laser technique to determine patina thickness across a transect of the coin. Neat. Never heard of that method, but the logic seems sound.

    I don’t want give away the surprise results from the show [SPOILER ALERT], but suffice it to say the coin exhibited an uneven patina thickness, was adjudged to have been in the ground for a while, which could only mean the “finder” — who wouldn’t you know just so happened to have been a coin collector himself — must have found the coin in Maine, therefore proving Vikings in America. Ugh.

    Anyway, has anyone heard of this technique? I’d be interested in learning more about it.
     
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  3. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I don't think it would be too difficult to add an artificial patina unevenly. I've never heard of this technique and I'm skeptical.
     
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  4. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Very lucky that a coin collector found the proof of Vikings in America by finding a coin. Very lucky indeed.

    My thoughts are... If they were able to get all the way across the galaxy, Aliens would have the technology create an uneven patina too.
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  5. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I call BS.

    This coin has very even patina, but it is fake.

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    This coin has very uneven patina, but it is genuine:

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  6. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    There is also a structure in Newport, R.I. that is suspected of being of Viking origin so maybe...?
     
  7. GenX Enthusiast

    GenX Enthusiast Forensic grammatician

    Isn't that exactly how they were distinguishing the two? Uneven=real, even=fake?
     
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  8. ToughCOINS

    ToughCOINS Dealer Member Moderator


    I'd think it even easier to apply patina evenly throughout, and then wear it thinner in some places . . .
     
  9. TypeCoin971793

    TypeCoin971793 Just a random guy on the internet

    I completely misread that. Oops.

    Anyhoo, here is a (likely) fake with uneven patina

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    And a genuine coin with even patina:

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  10. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    ...so, you can argue either side of the question :)
     
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  11. abuckmaster147

    abuckmaster147 Well-Known Member

    If you go to Oak Island and dig down 170 feet you will find Valhalla !!!
     
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