How best to handle a No S Proof set.

Discussion in 'What's it Worth' started by Ion2, Jan 4, 2019.

  1. Ion2

    Ion2 Member

    Ok, I asked this question in the middle of someones elses post and didn't get much of a response. (guess it was not to way to do it) so here it is again on a clean post.

    I was given this four date proof set by my father back in the 1970's and having retired thought I would haul it out and take a look. My reading tells me a couple of coins, the 1970 No S Dime and the 1971 No S Nickel are special. I'm new to all this and trying to learn so as not to do something stupid! So my question here is how best to proceed to evaluate and possibly market the coins. Do I pull the two special ones out and have them graded leaving the rest. Do I send those to some auction house? Or would it be better to keep the set together? Are there other coins in the batch that would bare having them graded or looked at? The 1970 penny might be a small date also... but frankly my novice eyes don't tell me much.
    So... I would appreciate any guidance you pro's can push my way. I'm over 100 miles from the closest "Real" Coin dealer so popping in for guidance is tough. Took some pic's so I'll do my best to add them.
    Thanks in advance in advance....

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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Congratulations, those two are indeed very special coins. There are only a few hundred known of each. I would take the trip to the local shop and have them properly evaluated and sent off to be certified. They could use some professional conservation so I would consider NCS for that as well.
     
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  4. Noah Finney

    Noah Finney Well-Known Member

    Hi There,
    Welcome to coin talk. It seems you do have a rare set. The dime varies from $750-850. The nickel is worth around 1000-1250. I would send it to PCGS or NGC if I were you. Just the two coins. That way you can keep them preserved and sell them if you wish. Congratulations and Good Luck!
    NGC Grading Link:https://www.ngccoin.com/ PCGSLink:https://www.pcgs.com/


     
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  5. CoinCorgi

    CoinCorgi Tell your dog I said hi!

    What an odd holder. Is the 2nd, 4th, and 6th row meant to be used to show the reverses?

    Nice score on the "no S" coins.
     
  6. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Welcome to CT. Use your local coin shop to verify and evaluate the coins. If they concur then send to a TPG's for grading.
     
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  7. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    Very special coins indeed. Not only due to the rarity but more so gifts from your father.

    I agree with Kirk. I would have them professionally conserved and graded. Once they have been blessed by a TPG grade you would know a ballpark price they might bring in the market.

    Thanks for sharing them with us again. They are coins you don’t see very often, especially raw. I hope they grade well for you. Love seeing these stories. Your father was a good man!
     
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  8. Ion2

    Ion2 Member

    Great stuff you guys... thank you so much. The part about professionally preserved I don't understand. The grading services will do that? I read that PCGS coins tend to sell a bit higher than others... True? False?
    and Lastly I'm having trouble getting any info on another coin (pic included). A 1985 1/10 oz. Isle of Man Gold Elizabeth II coin. This one has a L inside the dragons tail. Anyone know what that means? Not much information out there.
    Many Thanks again for the input. PICT0011 (2).JPG PICT0019 (3).JPG ... feel better having someone out there to ask.
    Cheers
     
  9. Jaelus

    Jaelus The Hungarian Antiquarian Supporter

    They might sell for more with PCGS. Maybe not. Perhaps someone who knows the market for these can comment. Having said that, since they need conservation, NCS (the conservation service for NGC) is much more reputable than PCGS' conservation service. If there isn't much of a difference, go with NGC/NCS combined service. Then again, if NCS does a superior conservation job, the resulting grade may be higher than at PCGS anyway, negating any potential price difference.
     
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  10. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Those are some nice looking coins. It is hard to tell from the photos whether they are just proofs or have a cameo. I would say definitely no on the dime. It is determined on how frosty the devices are compared to the mirrored fields.
    Cool gift from your father. The 70'S looks to have target toning.
    You can go here to try and figure out the small date VS large date
    http://varietyvista.com/01b LC Doubled Dies Vol 2/Obverse Design Varieties.htm
    The large date is ODV-025 and the large date is ODV-026
    Wish I had a better reference for you. But the nine combined with a fading liberty is usually a +.
    Just remember if you decide to send these in for evaluation only handle them by the rims. Proofs are easily damaged by fingers and will easily scratch.
     
  11. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    These are usually traded as melt value. There were 8000 made. I couldn't find much information on them.
     
  12. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Very cool coins and I love the display. Great advice with doing NGC conservation and then slabbing.
     
  13. robec

    robec Junior Member

    Melt value is around $125. In MS63 one price guide has $175, but these are only guides not bible. The reverse was designed by Leslie Lindsay so I would assume the L would be the designer's initial.
     
  14. Ion2

    Ion2 Member

    Saw somewhere in the threads that the letter in the dragon tail of the Isle of Man signified who they made the coin for and that made it a bit rarer. Don't know and can't seem to find much on it. But it's interesting and I'll keep poking around. Thanks again for all the info guys. Understand about how to hold coins but still nervous about opening the holder on that proof set. Should be interesting trying to get out the two coins without spilling out a bunch others. But I guess the lord protects the ignorant. Grin.
     
  15. Ion2

    Ion2 Member

    So just as a follow up on my initial question on this thread, I sent out the two No S coins and had PCGS grade them. see photos. The 1971 Nickel came back MS68 cam and the 1970 dime MS67. How the dime didn't rank a cameo I'll never know but that's life.
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  16. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    It definitely looks CAM to me. Does anyone know if the price difference is enough that it should get submitted for reconsideration or to NGC?
     
  17. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Marvelous.. Thanks for sharing!
     
  18. kSigSteve

    kSigSteve Active Member

    That’s fantastic. Congrats on the 68. Looks like only 20 or so graded higher. That’s great.

    I think the dime missed cam from the lighter frost on the cheek. Thanks for the update on grades. Congrats!
     
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