1922 Weak D?

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  1. MVC

    MVC Senior Member

    Any experts on 1922 D's who can provide an opinion as to grade and value?

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  3. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    I don't think anyone is an expert on these. Very hard to grade, but yours is VF35 or maybe XF-40. I believe that it is die #3. If the reverse is rotated relative to the observe, then I am correct.

    Value should somewhere around $100 or a little more, but they vary greatly depending mostly on who is there.
     
  4. snaz

    snaz Registry fever

    apparently I have no grading skills... at all...
     
  5. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Yes, you probably do, but these are such weak strikes to begin with. Here is an example grade VF-30 by ANACS for caparison.
     

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  6. Jhonn

    Jhonn Team Awesome

    These are definitely hard to grade due to their 'mushy strike' (unless it's the 'strong reverse' die state #2 variety, I think). Looks to me like it's in the VF range.
     
  7. MVC

    MVC Senior Member

    Indeed, these are hard to grade. Recently, I came across a tidbit about grading 1922 no “D”s. The author first presented a picture and it looked like the coin (1922 no “D”) was in horrible shape. Turns out the coin graded very high. Much higher than I would have thought. The author explained that it graded high because had little wear. It was the fact that it was a very weak strike. Unfortunately I cannot locate that tidbit. I came across it a few weeks ago and I thought it was in Coinage or Coin Values but I could be wrong. Anybody else see that?

    Also, in reference to the rotated reverse, I took a couple more pictures while the coin was in a 2x2 so I could be certain I did not introduce any rotation myself. It looks like the reverse is indeed rotated slightly.


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  8. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    The rotation is a characteristic of die #3. If you look here - lincolncentresource - you can get a better idea about the coins and what they look like.
     
  9. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator


    Die #2 rules out the weak D, there are no weak d obverses with the strong reverse. Some may appear weaker than others, but will not be attributed as the " weak D" .

    I'll agree with Rlm, that coin might push a 40 if the right person is grading it. I myself tend to stay away from these simply because of the mushy strikes, and stick to Die #2 coins if at all possible.
     
  10. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    One thing keeps me from die #2 - PRICE
     
  11. Wetspants

    Wetspants New Member

    Id mark it VF at most. But hey either way,NICE one to have.
     
  12. WmsJewelers

    WmsJewelers New Member

    This appears to me to be a Die 1 due to the stronger then normal back. Most Die 3s are very weak on the reverse. So weak that the Wheat ear on the left if almost always blended into the rim. Also the front seems to be a little stronger then most Die 3s. I would grade the coin VF to VF 30 as well.
     
  13. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    It is not die #1. There is no die crack on the reverse and the reverse is rotated indicating that it is die #3
     
  14. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Nice cent, did you pay normal 22 D price for it, or weak D price?

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  15. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I'm against the grain on this, but theres a D or theres not. I don't understand the weak thingy at all. D, there? then it's a D.
     
  16. rlm's cents

    rlm's cents Numismatist

    Go argue with PCGS, NGC and ANACS. They all say "weak D".
     
  17. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator


    I know. I'm against the grain on this. I will not pay or charge a premium.
     
  18. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    I got to agree.
     
  19. MVC

    MVC Senior Member

    What is the price I paid? Isn’t that like asking a lady how much she weighs or how old she is? :eek: Anyway, the price I paid is the best part. Several years ago I bought 4 rolls of cents from a friend of a friend of a …… Anyway, when I got home I put them somewhere and lost track of them :headbang:until recently when doing some cleaning I found the rolls buried behind some other non coin related junk. My kids must have hid them as a joke I almost could not remember where they came from. I figured I would dump them out to see what I had expecting they would all common coins. Most were 40’s and 50’s with a few common 30’s and twenties and then this one. The price? I give the guy $5.00 for the 4 rolls. I think that comes to 2.5 cents. :smile
     
  20. Car10

    Car10 Senior Member

    Lincoln cent reference site

    This site really is chock full of valuable information for the Lincoln cent enthusiast or researcher.
     
  21. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    Man, you've done good! Congrats man! :thumb:

    Phoenix :cool:
     
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