NCS Conservation of the month

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by DJCoinz, Feb 28, 2008.

  1. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    They did a good job removing the carbon spots but do the after photos seem kind of lusterless to you? Though there may be a difference in how they photographed the after photos.
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  3. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes it does look like the luster is diminished. But based on the before pics it was probably necessary to remove whatever was on the coin. Those weren't carbon spots - something was on the coin.
     
  4. rotobeast

    rotobeast Old Newbie

    Can gold be cross contaminated by another metal ?
    Let's say, if it were in an iron box, could it pick up iron oxide ?
     
  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Yes it can. But that appears to be more the result of some liquid IMO.
     
  6. SmokeMonkey

    SmokeMonkey i brake for peace dollars

    the luster is gone.

    slab it as cleaned. ill give them 15 bucks for it and they'll like it.
     
  7. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    is it just me is the cheek less baggy also.....
     
  8. DJCoinz

    DJCoinz Majored in Morganology

    I'm thinking it's just a difference in the photography of the first and second sets.
     
  9. WmsJewelers

    WmsJewelers New Member

    Any time a coin is "worked" on there will be a loss of luster. The real question is why is NCS ( NGC ) allowed to work on coins but it if thought of a huge problem if any dealer/collector does it. Think about that for a while.

    Talk about cornering the market.
     
  10. Arizona Jack

    Arizona Jack The Lincoln-ator

    I agree on that. The coin looked more original and desirable to me before, now it has the dreaded dead look.
     
  11. Bonedigger

    Bonedigger New Member

    I'm always on the side of the RAW COIN...
     
  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    In truth collectors and coin dealers work on far more coins than NCS could even think about working on. And the only ones that are a problem at all are those that are worked on by collectors who do not know what they are doing.

    You never hear a word about all the millions of coins that have been worked on by collectors and or coin dealers that did know what they were doing. Why ? Because you can't tell that the coins were worked on - except by use of deductive reasoning.
     
  13. craton

    craton New Member

    Carbon spots are possible on early gold aren't they? I have seen a few toned gold pieces due to a poor mix of copper.
     
  14. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Well, they aren't carbon spots per se - they are copper spots. Some may say semantics, but I don't. Carbon spots typically appear on copper coinage, sometimes silver, and are quite dark, black even. Copper spots are more reddish or brown in color and typically only appear on gold coinage.

    As I said earlier, I don't think the spots on this coin are the result of either. I think the spots on this coin are the result of the coin being contaminated with some liquid at some time in the past. The removal of this residue accounts for the lack of luster IMO.
     
  15. Phoenix21

    Phoenix21 Well-Known Member

    They do do a very nice job IMHO, and those spots were too distracting before IMHO. I think they are doing a good thing for the numismatic community. Unfortunate though that it looks like Jack said "dead", but what can you really do? Better I guess like that than for those spots to cause more damage IMHO. But, I could be just way off and totally wrong with all this, but that's my opinion on the matter.

    Phoenix :cool:
     
  16. Troodon

    Troodon Coin Collector

    Hmm, well I would definitely say the coin in the "after" picture has less luster, but I woud'nt go far as to say it has none. I wouldn't mind owning this coin to be honest... though I'd expect to pay a little less than a coin with more luster to it of course. I'd still say what NCS did to the coin resulted in a net improvement to the coin's condition and value. Lsoing a little bit of the luster for the sake of getting rid of those spots seems a reasonable trade-off to me.
     
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