Anyone ever bid in a Kunker auction?

What a great coins! That Thasos tetradrachm looks like it was minted by people who were visited by aliens , very special coin.

Oh crap I just realised it are preliminary bids, 2 of the 3 coins ended on my maximum bid, I really hope I got these. Do you have any idea when we will know if we got the coins?

 

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I don't know but this is their big spring auction and it spans five days... so possibly not until the whole thing is finished and then some time to sort it all out.

Several years ago I bid in one of these Künker print auctions and thought I'd won one lot based on preliminary results, only to find that it went to someone else. I think I just emailed them some time after the auction, asking when I'd receive the invoice. That's when I learned I hadn't won it.

I debated whether to call and ask about my third bid but I'll probably just wait and see.

 

Congrats winning both coins, and especially the Etrurian since I knew you were in the hunt for that one! Yours / your friend's is a VERY nice Etrurian bronze!


Etruria 3rd C BCE AE 18mm 4.76g Hd African r Elephant r letter below SNG Cop 48 HNI 69 SNG Paris 138-140 SNG Morcom 44 RARE

Here is a write-up that I ran across, perhaps I posted before:

This enigmatic issue has been much discussed. It was Sestini in 1816 who first indicated their area of circulation in and around the Chiana (Clanis) valley and lake Trasimeno, dominated by the cities of Arezzo, Chiusi and Cortona. The traditional attribution of the issue to 217 BC, as representing the propaganda of Hannibal’s approach to Etruria, was modified by Robinson (op. cit.), who saw it as a provocative seditious type of Arretium, which was in a state of high tension with Rome in 209/8, in the hoped for arrival of Hasdrubal from Spain with reinforcements. However, the reverse depicts an Indian rather than African elephant with a bell around its neck reminiscent of the elephant/saw aes signatum issue (Crawford 9/1) of about 250-240 BC and associated with the battle of Maleventum (soon to be called Beneventum) in 275 BC when the captured elephants of Pyrrhus were brought to Rome in triumph. A similar Indian elephant is also depicted as a symbol on the Tarantine nomos issue (Vlasto 710-712), indicating the presence of Pyrrhus in the city in 282-276. The Barcid coinage of New Carthage (Villaronga CNH, pg. 65, 12-15) and that of Hannibal in Sicily (SNG Cop. 382) clearly depict African elephants belonging to the elephant corps from about 220 BC. As Maria Baglione points out in "Su alcune parallele di bronzo coniato," Atti Napoli 1975, pg.153-180, the African/elephant issue shares control marks with other cast and struck Etruscan coins of the region, she quotes Panvini Rosati in ‘ Annuario dell’accademia Etrusca di Cortona XII’, 1964, pg. 167ff., who suggests the type is to be seen as a moneyer’s badge or commemorative issue in the style of Caesar’s elephant/sacrificial implements issue of 49/48 BC (Crawford 443/1). The elephant, an attribute of Mercury/Turms, is an emblem of wisdom and is also a symbol of strength and of the overcoming of evil.





Thrace Thasos 146-50 BCE Roman provincial or Military mint AR Tet Dionysos Herakles Club Lion skin

 

If you log into your Kunker account and click on "My Collection" or something like that, you will see if you won the coins

 

Oh! You're right! Thanks.

MyKünker > Collection > shows all coins you've ever put on your MyKünker watch list; coins won have a green check mark

Oh... wait... I see other green check-marked coins on that list but I did not win them. Maybe the green check marks mean I bid on the coin, regardless of whether I won?

That doesn't seem entirely correct either. The Celtic Thasos imitative I bid on and lost in this auction does not show up on that list.

I'm rushing off to work now but will investigate more tonight.

 

I won my only target, lot 932, with a phone bid.

Phil Davis

 

WOW! I am surprised that Thasos imittion "antman" =alien has not appeared on, "Ancient Aliens".
About Kunker, on auction day, you can go directly to their site and get upto the minute auction results.
John

 

I have my bid on a German States/ AV Quarter Dukat in March 14th session, fingers crossed......

 

Excellent! Killer Denarius!

(Umm... no pun intended... but, appropriate)

 

Yes, which is what we are all doing... but the results are listed as "preliminary". I have been burned before by assuming I had won a lot which hammered for less than my max.

 

Lot 932 was one of the six coins I tried to bid on. I was unsuccessful. Do not worry I was not even close to being the under bidder. Great coin.

 

I put 5 bids in at what I thought were good prices and only came close on one (but still lost)! Generally the prices ended up going quite a bit higher than I've seen similar coins go in other auctions. Oh well! There will always be more auctions

 

It has always been a pleasure dealing with Kunker. Their professionalism as well as the coins offered are top knotch.
The estimates, as often is the case with most auctions , are very much on the low side. I just won this sestertius of Marcus Aurelius that went for 4X the estimate price ( tho ugh truth be told I never for a moment thought it would sell for anything close to the estimate).

 

From what I can see from my wins and a few that I was bidding on and did not get the posted prices should be accurate. These are my 3 wins.

 

Beautifull! Congratulations on your Kunker wins
John

 

Congratulations on that Domitian RIC 552. It is an amazing coin. I knew when I saw it in the catalogue that there would be some competition for this one. I like your other 2 as well of course, but that Domitian is a star. I missed out on a similar coin in an auction last week. It was RIC 563-so a different obverse legend. I really wish they had continued this type of Minerva reverse for Domitian. However, if they had this coin wold not be so rare and desirable.

 

I forgot to place my won lots as well!

The first coin I am glad I won, I have got a quite some interest in this Seleukid king. He got a lot of variety in his coin as, like his 'father' Antiochos IV Epiphanes he wanted to give cities more autonomy and therefore issued coins in 19 cities when he started to reign. One of the type of tetradrachms issued is the coin I won, it was issued in the Phoenican cities like Tyre (in this case), Sidon and Laodicea. In the issues of Tyre the eagle stands on a ship’s prow, symbol of the Tyrian naval force and behind the eagle’s shoulder a palm branch, the symbol of Phoenicia. All in all a very nice example in my opinion. I think @David@PCC will like this one.

Alexander I (Balas). 152/1-145 BC. AR Tetradrachm. Tyre mint. Dated SE 167 (146/5 BC).
Obverse: Diademed and draped bust of Alexander Balas right.
Reverse: Eagle standing left on prow of galley, palm-branch over right shoulder; club surmounted by monogram to left, date and monogram to right.
Reference: SNG Spaer 1545-1546; Newell, Tyre 79; Houghton 749.

Second coin is from Rhodos, it is a little different from most Rhodos coins (and I think many here didn't even know this issue existed). It is a very late issue and this is after the plinthophoric drachms, I think this coin is of Attic standard rather than Rhodian standard if I remember correctly.


Rhodos AR Drachm. 88/42 BC-AD 14. Magistrate Phainilas.
Obverse: Radiate head of Helios facing slightly right.
Reverse: Rose, seen from above; ΦAINIΛAΣ above, P-O across field, akrostolion below.
Reference: Ashton/Weiss, The Post-Plinthophoric Silver Drachms of Rhodes 330 (this coin).
Ex. Hirsch Nachf. 162, München 1989, Nr. 288.

The third coin ofcourse had to be bought, Epeiros with its kings is one of my main focus in my collection and this coin is a very nice example issued by Pyrrhos when he was tyrant of Syracuse.

Sicily, Syracuse. Pyrrhos (278-276 BC) AE Bronze coin.
Obverse: Helmeted head of Athena left; owl behind.
Reverse: BAΣIΛEΩΣ ΠYPPOY. Grain ear within oak wreath.
Reference: SNG ANS 842.
Ex. Pecunem 23, München 2014, Nr. 92.

 

Some beautiful material folks !

Q

 

2 out of 34. I was the under bidder on a few of the coins listed here. Congratulations, everyone; but I wonder if this thread increased the competition? I put in decent bids on each one of those Hadrian Travel Series denarii. Outstanding examples. They must have come from the same collection. Bid on the Marcus Sestertius as well; but no where near the hammer. Wow.


MACEDON, Akanthos. Circa 470-430 BC. AR Tetradrachm. 17.08 g. Attic standard. Lion, right, attacking bull kneeling to left, biting into his hindquarter; ΔI above, olive branch in exergue / Ethnic around quadripartite square, the quarters raised and granulated; all within incuse square. Desneux -, see 104 ff; Hoover 385.


SICILY, Selinos. Circa 515-480/70 BC. AR Didrachm. 8.62 g. Selinon leaf / Selinon leaf within linear square, all within incuse square. SNG ANS 685?; SNG Lockett 858? Weber 1531

Comes with a copy of auction Kricheldorf 14, Stuttgart 1964, No. 49

-Michael

 

Kunker is a wonderful company. Knowledgeable staff. Two reasons
for low estimates, 1) Makes the auction company look good when
results are 2-3x's or more than the estimate.
2) Some auction companies loan to consignors a percentage of the estimate before the auction starts. The low estimate then is a CYA tactic.
ie. Estimate for coin is 100 Euros. Company loans consignor 50 Euros
against the estimate. The consignor has some early money and the
auction company deducts the loan from the completed sale. this of
course occurs after auction company expenses are collected.