1969 s Bash away my friends

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by christafish, Mar 11, 2019.

  1. christafish

    christafish Member

    I am sure this is too good to be true but I thought I would share. Looks like Mechanical double to me thought I would ask you. Screen Shot 2019-03-11 at 7.55.42 AM.png Screen Shot 2019-03-11 at 7.56.11 AM.png Screen Shot 2019-03-11 at 7.56.11 AM.png Screen Shot 2019-03-11 at 7.56.11 AM.png
     

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  3. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    Look how flat and shelf-like that is. Not even close to what a true doubled die would look like.
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    @christafish

    It looks like die deterioration doubling to me.

    Chris
     
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  5. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Great example of what "flat and shelf-like" is.
     
  6. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    That's about the most prominent example of MD I can remember seeing here. Worth keeping on that basis alone, in my opinion...
     
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  7. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    It's a cruel irony that 1969-S seems to have a larger than normal population of MD than other dates, or maybe it's just that every single MD coin is pulled out as a hopeful DDO. Finding a coin with strong MD does get your heart going, doesn't it?
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Not even close. Probably a worn die.
     
  9. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Look how rounded the bottoms of the doubling are in relation to the actual letters in Liberty. That in itself tells you it is going to be mechanical doubling here. Basically the motion of the die (not doubled on the die) as the coin is struck is giving it this appearance. Mechanical doubling does not give a sharp crisp double image with similar height as the die with no doubling.

    On a doubled die, you would be looking for doubling of the same height usually and also you would be looking for the sharpness to also be there. In other words it would not appear like on your coin with more rounded flat edging. The process for a doubled die comes not in striking the coin but in the making of the die that strikes the coin.

    Once you understand the differences in processes that lead to this, it becomes easier to notice the things you need to to decide.
     
  10. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    Can you please explain how die wear could cause this?
     
  11. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    As I understand it, as the Die wears down it creates space which causes MD.
     
  12. rmpsrpms

    rmpsrpms Lincoln Maniac

    Ahh, that's what you meant. I was thinking you were suggesting that die wear could cause the coin to appear as if it had MD.

    I'm not sure about die wear causing MD, but I am not expert on MD. Perhaps someone with better knowledge about the cause of MD in this era could elucidate?
     
  13. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    what does the entire coin look like Obverse and Reverse? (should always be shown)
     
  14. christafish

    christafish Member

    Thanks I am going to keep it look at the s there’s something under it
     
  15. christafish

    christafish Member

    It dose look at the s. There’s something under it
     
  16. christafish

    christafish Member

    I will post a picture when I eat home tonight also there’s something under the S not sure what
     
  17. christafish

    christafish Member

    Sorry get home
     
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  21. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    I’m not sure about here, but stronger examples certainly exist. Still, I do agree with keeping it though; why not?

    Also, I do believe this would fall under what’s called “push doubling”.
     
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