Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak!

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Roman Collector, Mar 9, 2019.

  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    C'mon! Who slabs a Gallienus antoninianus? And it's from the Cologne mint, not the Rome one.

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    Hold on, li'l buddy! Tonight there's gonna be a jailbreak!



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    Free!!

    Gallienus VIRTVS AVGG Emperor stg r c spear and standard.jpg
    Gallienus, AD 253-268.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.61 g, 21.1 mm, 12 h.
    Cologne, AD 257-258.
    Obv: GALLIENVS P F AVG, radiate and cuirassed bust, right.
    Rev: VIRTVS AVGG, Gallienus in military attire standing right, holding spear and standard.
    Refs: RIC 58F; Göbl 8821; Cohen 1309; RCV 10413; Hunter 58; ERIC II 1030.

    Share your stories of coins you busted out of jail!!
     
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  3. Jay GT4

    Jay GT4 Well-Known Member

    This Plastic Prison can't hold me forever Charles...
     
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  4. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    I freed this Claudius denarius from an NGC slab.

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    I freed this Galba denarius from an NGC slab. I do not have a photo post slab.

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    I freed this Henry VIII groat from a PCGS slab

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  5. randygeki

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  6. arizonarobin

    arizonarobin Well-Known Member

    whoo hoo! Libertas!
    I wonder if slab break outs make the non ancient collectors crazy :nailbiting:
     
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  7. Severus Alexander

    Severus Alexander find me at NumisForums

    Hooray!! Always cause for celebration. (And I love the comical style on the reverse of that Gallienus, BTW.)

    Here are a couple I freed:

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    (Don't worry, it wasn't my hammer that took off the horses' heads...)

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    Bonus points for anyone who can show a freed Libertas type! :D
     
  8. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I know! It looks like something from an anime cartoon! Thanks for the kind words.
     
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  9. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I recently had the pleasure of cracking my first slab, one entombing an A-Pi Alexandrian drachm with Harpodile reverse.

    Antoninus Pius - Drachm Harpodile 3138 slab.jpg

    Not having smashed a slab before, I was pretty nervous at the prospect and put off doing the deed for a few weeks. Even when I finally decided to get down to it, I kept hearing a voice in my head going...

    Antoninus Pius - Drachm Harpodile 3138 release boromir.jpg

    Well, I wasn't going to let anyone keep me from laying my hands on My Precioussss... yeah, not even Sean Bean. So, anyway, after a few good thwacks with the ol' hammer, the beast was unleashed. :happy:

    Antoninus Pius - Drachm Harpodile 3138 slab cracked.jpg

    Antoninus Pius - Drachm Harpodile Menelaites Nome new 3138.jpg
    ANTONINUS PIUS
    AE Drachm. 28.01g, 36.4mm. EGYPT, Alexandria, RY 8 (AD 144/5). Menelaites Nome. Emmett 1819; Dattari 6318; RPC Online Temp #13971. O: AVT K T AIΛ AΔP ANTωNЄINOC CЄB ЄVC, laureate head right. R: MЄNЄΛAЄITHC, Harpokrates of Canopus (part human, part crocodile) left, holding finger on right hand before mouth, cornucopia on left arm; altar before, L H (date) in exergue.
    Ex Phil Peck (“Morris”) Collection
     
  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Thanks to @TIF for pointing out that my coin is a double die match to this one currently offered by Civitas:

    Gallienus VIRTVS AVGG Emperor stg r c spear and standard Civitas die match.jpg

    Mine:

    Gallienus VIRTVS AVGG Emperor stg r c spear and standard.jpg

    How bizarre to find a double-die match on a mid-third-century coin, when the mint was cranking out coins by the millions!
     
  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Cool! That Harpodile needed to be busted out!!!
     
  12. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    That Gallienus really is a great strike and condition, not only for the type but among many eras! The reverse style is memorable... so memorable that I noticed the die match when browsing Vcoins.

    As for crackouts, I have a handful :). Here are a few.

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, M. Piso M.f. Frugi
    58 BCE (redated from Crawford's 61 BCE by Hersh and Walker, 1984)
    AR denarius, 20 mm, 3.94 gm
    Obv: terminal bust of Mercury right, wearing winged diadem; calix below chin; to left, star above wreath; dotted border
    Rev: M·PISO·M·F / FRVGI above secespita (sacrificial knife) and patera; all within laurel wreath
    Ref: Crawford 418/2b; Sydenham 825; Calpurnia 23
    formerly slabbed, NGC XF, 4/5 strike, 4/5 surface

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    ROMAN REPUBLIC, M. Aurelius Cotta
    139 BCE
    AR Denarius, 20 mm, ? gm (can't find my scale right at the moment :D)
    Obv: helmeted head of Roma right; X (mark of value) behind; COTA before; dotted border
    Rev: Hercules carrying a club, driving biga of centaurs right; centaurs each carrying a branch; M·AVRELI (AVR is ligate); in exergue, ROMA; line border
    Ref: Crawford 229/1b; Sydenham 429; Aurelia 16
    formerly slabbed, NGC bulk submission holder, "VF"

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    Roman Republic, Lucius Aurelius Cotta
    105 BCE
    Fourree AR serrate denarius, 20 mm, 3.8 gm
    Obv: draped bust of Vulcan right, wearing laureate pileus; tongs and star behind; all within wreath and dotted border
    Rev: eagle standing on thunderbolt, head left; L·COT below, V to right; all within laurel wreath and dotted border
    Ref: c.f. Crawford 314/1c; Sydenham 577a; Aurelia 21b
    formerly slabbed, NGC ChVF, 5/5 strike, 3/5 surface

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  13. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I've never bought a slabbed coin I can say happily.
     
  14. Bert Gedin

    Bert Gedin Well-Known Member

    Everybody in the whole cell block, Was dancin' to the Jailhouse Rock ! :jimlad:
     
  15. Carausius

    Carausius Brother, can you spare a sestertius?

    Here's just a couple, though there are many more escapies in my collection:

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    The Sextus Pompey denarius was particularly in need of rescue. Due to its oblong and irregular flan, it was rattling around the slab like a miserable prisoner with a tin cup.

    Unlike many Cointalkers, I personally have no issue with slabs per se. If slabs appeal to a certain segment that would not otherwise buy ancient coins, then I say "let there be slabs" to attract those new collectors. They will, perhaps, tire of the training-wheels at some point and enter the mainstream of ancient coin fondlers. Until then, I'm happy to free slabbed coins in my collection; but I don't criticize those that prefer to buy slabbed coins, nor do I mind the slab companies that service this segment of ancient coin collectors.
     
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  16. red_spork

    red_spork Triumvir monetalis

    A recent jailbreak that occurred at my house:
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    Roman Republic AR Victoriatus(3.40g, 18.5mm, 5h). Anonymous(Second ""L"" series). ca. 211-208 B.C., Luceria mint. Laureate head of Jupiter right. Bead-and-reel border / Victory standing right, crowning trophy with wreath; L between. ROMA in exergue. Line border. Crawford 97/1b

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  17. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

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    sez grett job dun!

    That's so wonderful looking free from the slab
     
  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Never had to do that in 50 years of collecting. Congrats to you all my friends for freeing those poor entombed coins !!

    Q

    Here's my VIRTVS AVGG Gallienus (same as the OP but different dies)

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    Gallienus, Antoninianus Cologne mint, AD 257-258
    GALLIENVS PF AVG, Radiate and cuirassed bust of Gallienus, seen from front
    VIRTVS AVGG, Virtus, standing right, holding spear and standard
    3,93 gr
    Ref : RCV #10413, Cohen #1309, Göbl # 8821

    Q
     
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  19. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Wow CONGRATS @zumbly !!! First jailbreak!
     
  20. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Sometimes the information of the slab makes the coin seen worse than it is. I have seen "3" assigned to surfaces I actually like. I have seen "edge cut" mentioned for an almost unnoticeable shallow slice into the edge. As I have noted before, many collectors fail to look at the coin and, instead, look at the info on the slab. If a slab mentions a defect, or has a number less than 5, many won't bid, even if the defect is barely a defect at all. Then you can sometimes get coins you really like at a very good price where the slab actually lowered the price! Then, crack it out and that low number or defect becomes less important than the coin (rather than more important than the coin, which is a good reason to dislike slabs). Then your own judgement is what matters.
     
  21. PlanoSteve

    PlanoSteve Well-Known Member

    Actually, we wonder why they would be slabbed in the first place (unless to authenticate!). :happy:

    We always though "you people" liked to fondle your coins! :smuggrin::D:eek:

    Many of "us" however like to keep plastic covers on our sofas & chairs so we don't, you know, get them dirty! :p:D:smuggrin::joyful::cigar::rolleyes::eek:
     
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