Which harp to pluck? (another LordM purchase poll)

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by lordmarcovan, Mar 10, 2019.

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Which do you think is the better value for the money?

  1. #1- Go gilt, to the hilt! The bling is the king!

    11 vote(s)
    26.2%
  2. #2- The copper is proper- and it's a whopper! Save a buck- that's good luck!

    22 vote(s)
    52.4%
  3. #3- Too bad you can only buy one- they both rock. I can't decide.

    4 vote(s)
    9.5%
  4. #4- Dunno?

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. #5- Meh.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. #6- They're OK, but you shouldn't buy either one.

    7 vote(s)
    16.7%
  7. #7- Hate 'em both.

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. #8- Corned beef n' Cabbage! Wonderful, but gives me a wee spot o' the wind. *prrrt*

    4 vote(s)
    9.5%
  9. #9- Shamrock Shake from Mickey D's! All the vile green artificial deliciousness you need.

    3 vote(s)
    7.1%
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  1. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    With St. Patrick's day upon us in a week, i suppose this is timely.

    I just absolutely decimated my collection in a necessary purge (bills to pay). But the sales way exceeded expectations, so I'll have some money to start rebuilding with.

    It is time for another George III Irish proof. Here are two for consideration. I love them both, and am almost certainly going to make an offer on one of them. But which one? I can't do both.

    I have long been a fan of these Soho mint proofs from the dawn of the Industrial Revolution.

    Though essentially the same coin type, these two are different varieties with very different appearances and price points. I would just like to hear some opinions on which one you think is the better value.

    Both are from the same seller. This seller has a reputation for very high quality and beautiful inventory, but is sometimes criticized for steep pricing. That matters little to me, since I know quality doesn't come cheap, and my past business with them has been top-notch. I've found they will also bend a little bit on price. Not a lot, but every little bit helps, and I've always ended up happy in our deals.

    Coin #1
    81717752_large.jpg

    Population 2 with 1 higher.

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/81717752/

    Asking price: $775.
    • Soho gilt proofs are awesome, but not cheap.
    • I just sold my last one- and miss it already.
    • I really like this one. And if we're talking about Soho proofs, I like the Hibernia Harps more than the British Britannias. (I'm of Scots-Irish descent.)
    • C'mon. Look at this thing. Is it it not amazing?



    Coin #2
    36479255_Large.jpg

    Population 4 with 3 higher.

    https://www.pcgs.com/cert/36479255/

    Asking price: $395.
    • Normally there would be no contest for me between copper and gilt. I would be "gilty" as charged. Haha.
    • But this copper proof? Whoa. Be still my beating heart. Look at that perfect pastel toning!
    • It's 380 bucks cheaper- essentially half the price- and one grade point higher with just as much eye appeal- aside from the gilt coin's "bling" advantage.
    • Given my recent austerity measures, it might be best to stay in my <$500 comfort zone.
    • I will go so far as to say I'm ready to buy this coin, even if the seller won't budge on the price. But I dunno... I still have a thing for those gilt beauties. Should I step up for the gilt coin, or buy this perfectly lovely piece for half as much, and use the savings elsewhere? Hmm.

    What do you think?

    Cons: there is a tiny bit of flyspecking on both coins. It is a bit more pronounced on the second, cheaper piece, but in neither case do I find it particularly distracting. It is totally normal on these 200 year old proofs. Think of the delicate surfaces of a proof coin. Now imagine it being exposed to the environment and light handling for a century and a half before Mylar 2x2s and coin flips will be invented. Some flyspecks and hairlines are inevitable.

    Interesting factoid: one reason these often survive so nice is because some were issued in little protective metal shells. Though I am not well versed in the history, I believe many of these were VIP presentation pieces that would have been in the hands of the royalty and nobility.

    Thanks to ryarmch (@yarm) for the post I linked to. And I'll tag you too, @Rexford- you'll know why.
     
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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I like the color! I don't like the pale look of Georgie as if he were locked away in the Tower of London for two centuries.

    Buy a milk shake mixer with the savings.

    Chris
     
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  4. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    2 and 9 and you'll be fine
     
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  5. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    i prefer the toned one better, regardless of price.
     
  6. spirityoda

    spirityoda Coin Junky

    Coin #1 is gorgeous. both are nice, but #1 does it for me.
     
  7. Zonker

    Zonker Active Member

    Spend the extra, you won't regret it. #1
     
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  8. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

    They are really, really, really nice coins. I have to be blunt - being through austerity measure, having extra cash in bank account would not hurt as I have been through one myself...
     
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  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    This. Bank the money, have it available next time so you don't have to sell something you really really REALLY want to keep. (Or so you can buy the even better opportunity that appears next month...)
     
  10. Kasia

    Kasia Got my learning hat on

    Go for the Gold (#1) --- You know you are looking for that gold at the end of the rainbow. Don't be swayed by something that looks like it's just as fine.

    And green beer.
     
  11. Nathan401

    Nathan401 Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?

    Sell something else LM, and buy BOTH of those beauties!! Any more of a deal to be had if you agreed to purchase both? They’d make a fine set together.
     
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  12. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    I like both of them. But the first is in a league of it's own.
    On the other hand who doesn't like color?
     
  13. Fugio1

    Fugio1 Well-Known Member

    I like the honesty and beauty of the copper proof. It is after all, a representation of a copper coin.
     
  14. TexAg

    TexAg Well-Known Member

    I voted 2 & 8 - don't consternate. King George sure had a funny profile, lol. If I were him, I would have had the engraver drawn and quartered!
     
  15. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    Both coins are real nice- it's hard to decide. But, the copper one has some nice toning, and, if they are the same coin (difference in gold plating) it's best to go with the copper one, especially if you prefer a budget of $500 or less.

    I voted "copper is proper" on your poll.
     
  16. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    Ahhh, but you see, this is the whole reason I decimated my collection. I made enough to pay off both of my credit cards, fix my car, and put a little in savings. I was tired of living on the knife's edge.

    I sold far more than expected. So I'm gonna have a little guilt-free splurge.
     
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  17. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Far be it from me to splash guilt on it from outside, then. :)
     
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  18. kountryken

    kountryken Well-Known Member

    A person of kingly character should make this decision.
    An honorable sacrifice you made for family provisions.
    Such a noble act deserves grand recognition.
    Perhaps a noble coin should be the addition!
     
  19. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Why not just buy the cheaper one and gilt it yourself.:troll::D

    The fingerprint on the copper one bothers me, I would go for the gilt. But wow..the cost of it.:drowning:
     
  20. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    Gilt Irish proofs are like gold-plated states quarters - they have lost their coin status.
     
  21. lordmarcovan

    lordmarcovan Eclectic & Eccentric Moderator

    I tend to disagree. Gold-plated Statehood quarters were not plated at the mint - they were aftermarket novelties created by private parties. Soho mint gilt proofs were done officially, at the mint, for presentation purposes. It's a subtle distinction, perhaps, but an important one.
     
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