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Still struggling with this one Marshall, probably mostly due to the corrosion distortion. Concentrating on the "3's" and the border beads I can convince myself the posted one matches NC6 versus the attributed S-16.

 

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I'm convinced it is a NC-6. But I'm also convinced I have a 1800 NC-2, but is in such a corroded condition, it can't be confirmed.

This is why I always ask for confirmation. It needs to be independently attributed by a knowledgeable specialist before I consider it a find. It is why I often ask for attribution without mentioning my attribution until it is confirmed. That prevents influence.

In this case, I was so excited, I made my attribution thoughts known first.

 

From Mark in an eMail dated 2/19 that I just read this morning.

Dear Marshall,

Not only have I spoken with the consignor, but I now have his entire collection on my desk, and am preparing the collection for our September Long Beach sale. I have studied the coin carefully, and asked two of my associates on the Heritage cataloging staff to examine the coin as well. All three of us have come to the same conclusion … we strongly believe the coin is the third known NC-6. That said, I tend to be conservative and will take the coin with me to the Early American Coppers convention in early May, where I will have several additional experts examine it independently. I will certainly let you know the final decision at that time, and thank you for bringing this to my attention. Once we have the final confirmation, and subject to your permission, I will happily identify you as the person who discovered the third known 1793 NC-6 cent.

Sincerely,

Mark

 

Congratulations, Marshall!

Well deserved recognition for the expertise (and perseverance) you have so often demonstrated in the area of large cents.

 

That's a great letter to receive. A hearty pat on the back to you Marshall.

Rich

 

Marshall, may I ask: are you are member of EAC?
I am sure members there would like to know about this new discovery.

 

I've been a member of EAC at least three times since I was young. I was initially given Membership Number 1799 as Bobby Bryant and was generously allowed to retain it each time I rejoined as Marshall Bryant. I'm not sure if my most recent membership has lapsed or not, but it has been recent.

 

Any thoughts of coming to the EAC '19 convention in Dayton Marshall?

 

I think Mark is being rather selective about who he includes at this point Eduard; I am sure when he has the proper confirmations it will be publicly disclosed.

 

I'd love to, but my finances are a bit too tight this year. I'm still paying off Harvey damage and my trip to sing in Carnegie Hall last October.

 

Wow!!! What an incredible find.

 

While I am proud of this potential discovery, it is important to recognize that final confirmation lies ahead and has not completed.

I anxiously await the thoughts of the additional independent experts who will examination it at the EAC convention in May. I'm hoping Noyes and Bland are among the experts since they are two well known keepers of the census records.

While I have discovered new examples of several varieties, they are usually R5 rarities. The S-39 is still R6- though it may not be for long.

I did have a minor pert in confirming a 1795 NC-3 a few years ago by a well known contributor to this site and actually bid on an unattributed one a little earlier though the seller dropped his listing while I was the high bidder. I don't know if they were the same coin or not because the photos were poor, though good enough to identify the unique reverse. That is still a R7 though I saw either the same one or an additional one earlier this year being auctioned on Heritage so I think the census has doubled while I've been following it unless it is again, the same coin.

Oh, how could I forget the coin that started it all off. Jack's new find of a S-16 which is R6+. I was happy to be one of several who confirmed the attribution of his coin. If not for that, I probably would not have been looking through the Archives and found the NC-6.

But this will be the best if confirmed.

 

As far as I know the 1795 NC-3 is still an R-7 coin with 8 known. Looking forward to EAC. I seldom get a chance to attend because it is always too far away, but this year it's just 60 miles from home!

And Bland won't be one of the experts to examine the NC-6. He passed away last year.

 

I'm so sorry to hear about Mr. Bland.

I am glad you will be attending this year. I hope some day I'll be able to go to one.

Did you ever take a look and come to an opinion on it's attribution?

 

I've taken a new photo of what I believe to be a 1800 NC-2. Because of it's corrosion and reverse damage, I have not found anyone who would confirm the attribution. That's why I call it my Half NC.

I'll share it here and see if anybody can see anything which would confirm or contradict the attribution. If not, it just remains out of reach for a solid attribution.

 

For those of you who are active EAC Members, there will be an article in Penny-Wise on the 1793 if all goes as planned.

 

Here is a mule of an obverse and reverse where each has more common usage on other varieties.



These are a coupe of examples of the more common pairing of the Reverse:

Here are a couple of examples with the more common pairings of the Obverse:

 

Here is the reverse that somehow failed to appear.

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I've read the proof of the article about 50 times. Mark and the owner, Donald Stoebner, have been very generous regarding my role.

I'm just very happy to give back a little something to a hobby I have enjoyed most of my life. I am particularly thrilled because I am such a fan of Mark's descriptions and histories he presents on each coin he catalogues. I have learned so much that is not contained in the usual reference material.

 

Following up after looking at the Penny-Wise Archives:

I first joined on 1/15/83 and received #1799 as Bob Bryant from Houston, Texas.

I later joined on 1/15/94 and received #4123 as Marshall Bryant from Grand Rapids, Michigan.

I've subsequently rejoined twice under the #1799 membership, but after they stopped reporting rejoins in the Membership Candidates Report.