Anyone know what the current variety listing is for this variety? Went to coneca and didn't find it. I bought a couple rolls of these back in 99 and put them away and forgot about them and can't remember what the error is. I don't see any obvious error's and not sure what to look for. Thanks
I'm pretty sure MD#5 is the doubling due to the master die doubled cents, which although they aren't worth a premium are still neat to look at.
The MD#5 is in reference to Master Die #5! The 5-0-1+1 is in error and should be 5-O-I+? which indicates Doubled Die Variety # "5" due to Master Die #5, the doubling is on the Obverse (i.e. the "O") and the type of Doubled Die doubling is "I". The indicator beyond the + is another form of Doubled Die doubling on the Obverse of the coin and should be a II, III, IV, V, VI, VII or VIII indicating which type it is. I do not have them but I am sure that someone here will have the correct designators for your 1972-P "Doubled Die" Cents and will post them soon. I do know that it is one of the weaker Double Dies and the main doubling is to the right of the numbers in the Date and to the right of the Letters in LIBERTY and IN GOD WE TRUST. Frank
I grant you that coins of this Variety are not worth a lot but Mint State specimens still bring a premium over non-Variety 1972-P Lincoln Cents! Check out eBay's past Auctions for this Variety to get an idea of what the coins are actually selling for. Frank
Thanks for the info--looking through some of the coins I don't see much except die polish--a light crack--gouge perhaps..no spread--I'll keep looking
The spread of the doubling on this Variety is very light and very hard to see without a decent power Loupe! If you do not have one, you might want to invest in a Loupe or Loupes with a range from 12x to 17x. Frank
I looked on eBay and couldn't find any for this die (though the history doesn't go back far- I miss being able to look back 2 months) but it often seems to be the case with 1972 DDOs 2-8 that the prices are much higher than I would often expect them to be, which makes me think that bidders often think they're buying one with the value given in price guides (i.e. die #1), even in those relatively few instances where the seller makes it clear it's not the case. I have found 1972 rolls where up to half of the coins have this doubling- I just can't imagine anyone who is aware of how common they are would pay a premium for them.
You might check out coppercoins.com and do a variety check. I use this site a lot and find it one of the best for die varieties on cents, Charles Daughtrey covers all of the known varietys and the markers are shown in depth. Hope this helps and Hi from a new member from fl.:smile
That could be true. Usually when a coin is sent to the Administrator's of this forum they will attribute it. If it's worthy of being listed they will. The other thing is both Chuck and Bob are swamped with coins. It depend's on the time frame that it can be listed.(If they have it) They will cross-link a coin when the time is avaliable to either one. Rhubarb
I doubt they care about this one- allow me to quote from Chuck's "Looking through lincoln cents" 2nd edition: page 273-4: "Master die doubling occurs again this year and has fooled many people because of it having been listed as a doubled die by a number of entities. Although nicer than the doubling of some of the doubled dies listed within this book, the master die doubling of 1972 exists on nearly half of all coins minted for the year to include all three operating mints and the proof coinage. For this reason, it carries no premium value at all and should be disregarded as a doubled die".
I really like his book and all the insights he has. I didn't realize it was in spiral bound form too- mine's a regular paperback, with some pages almost falling out from re-reading.
I didn't know there was a paperback. Mine was printed in 2005. Perhap's it was cheaper to produce spiral bound. It appear's were on the same page as far as Lincoln Cent's are concerned. I look forward to your view's and post's concerning Ol'e Abe. Rhubarb
