Left facing Ladies

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  1. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    SINISTER WOMEN of the ROMAN EMPIRE

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    RI URBS ROMA 223-336 CE Romulus Remus She-wolf S R Alexandria mint AE 15mm 1.5g RIC VIII 8 C2 Rare

    RI commem AE Follis Urbs ROMA She-wolf Rom Rem Stars RIC VII Lyons 242.JPG
    RI commem AE Follis Urbs ROMA She-wolf Rom Rem Stars RIC VII Lyons 242


    RI Commem Urbs Roma AE Follis Thessalonika 330-333 CE She-Wolf Rom-Rem stars S 16516R.JPG
    RI Commem Urbs Roma AE Follis Thessalonika 330-333 CE She-Wolf Rom-Rem stars S 16516R


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    Rome VRBS ROMA commem 330-331 CE Æ reduced centenionalis, 16mm, 2.5g, 12h; Trier mint, CE 330-331 She-wolf RIC VII 529
     
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  3. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    EXCELLENT point, John! But since the Romans eventually eradicated them from the planet, perhaps I can take some liberties using a Roman label for Left on the Carthage Lady! :)

    How about a SINISTER MALE from CARTHAGE?

    Carthage Zeugitana 4th-3rd C BCE Male Head Horse.JPG
    Carthage Zeugitana 4th-3rd C BC AE 15 Male Hd Horse Prancing SNG Cop 120
     
  4. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    Here are a few!

    Rhegium tetradrachm:

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    Knossos stater:
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    Kimon dekadrachm:
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    Carthage trihemistater:
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  5. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Nice series Robin

    Kore :
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    Tanit :
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    Vesta :
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  6. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio

    Left facing Roma is an under strike on these.
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  7. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ..wow..i'd never given it much thought, but i don't have any LFL of Rome...to my knowledge, i only have 2 and they are Punic from Carthage/ Sicily.. Cathiginain bronzes 001.JPG Cathiginain bronzes 002.JPG
     
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  8. PeteB

    PeteB Well-Known Member

    Stunning, AncientJoe!
     
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  9. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    I don't have any left-facing women, unfortunately. Great coins all!
     
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  10. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    SINISTER LADIES of the Greek World

    Ah! The LADY is to the Left of this Januform!
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    Troas Tenedos late 5th-early 4th C BCE AR Obol 8mm 0.60g Janiform hd female-male - Labrys within incuse square SNG Ash 1235 HGC 6 387


    Sicily Kamarina AE 15mm 3.4g 420-405 BCE Athena Owl Lizard 3 dots Sear Gk 1063.JPG
    Sicily Kamarina AE 15mm 3.4g 420-405 BCE Athena Owl Lizard 3 dots Sear Gk 1063


    Sicily Syracuse 317-289 BC AE 23 Hemilitron Agathokles Kore Bull Dolphin.jpg
    Sicily Syracuse 317-289 BC AE 23 Hemilitron Agathokles Kore Bull Dolphin


    Sicily Syracuse ca 410 BC AE 19 Athena Wreath Hippocamp.jpg
    Sicily Syracuse ca 410 BC AE 19 Athena Wreath Hippocamp


    Sicily Syracuse Hieron II 275-269 BC AE 15 Persephone Bull RIGHT Rare.jpg
    Sicily Syracuse Hieron II 275-269 BC AE 15 Persephone Bull RIGHT Rare


    NON-ROMAN - ITALIA / MARSIC CONFEDERATION Sinister Women

    Marsic denarius 89 BCE Bovianum-Asernia-Samnia HN Italy 407 Sear 230 SCARCE.JPG
    Marsic denarius 89 BCE ITALIA Bovianum-Asernia-Samnia HN Italy 407 Sear 230 SCARCE


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    Marsic Confederation denarius 90-88 BCE ITALIA Italia-Corfinium Oath Ceremony over pig Sear 227 SCARCE
     
  11. ominus1

    ominus1 Well-Known Member

    ah, but she's also to the right 9_9..so i call it a draw^^...:p
     
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  12. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Queen Philistis was sinister:

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    Philistis, wife of Hieron II.
    Greek AR 5 litrae.
    Syracuse 270-230 BCE, 4.46 gm, 18.1 mm.
    Obv: Diademed and veiled head, l., palm branch behind.
    Rev: ΒΑΣΙΛΙΣΣΑΣ ΦΙΛΙΣΤΙΔΟΣ, Nike driving biga to left, E in l. field.
    Refs: SNG ANS 893; SNG III (Lockett) 1017; Forrer 196.
     
  13. Ken Dorney

    Ken Dorney Yea, I'm Cool That Way...

    Wow, what a pile on thread, and so quickly! But to get back to the question at hand, why left? Although I am certain some specialists have their take on the matter I will offer what I can.

    Iconography was of supreme importance. Coin designs were carefully thought out and executed (with few exceptions, one of which will be illustrated below). Unfortunately we will never know the real reason behind left facing portraits. One can simply speculate as to their importance and meaning. While some types are certainly not rare it must have been a special occasion when one was issued. Who can tell?

    But there are some rare occasions when it is a simple mistake by the celator. There are a few of these types from Antioch which were engraved improperly, probably by the same celator (this one is mine):

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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    SICILY, SYRACUSE, HIERON II 2.jpg
    SICILY, SYRACUSE, HIERON II
    AE19
    OBVERSE: Head of Persephone left, wreathed with corn, wearing earring and necklace, poppy head behind head
    REVERSE: Bull butting left; above, club above IA; IE in exergue
    Struck at Syracuse, Sicily 275-265 BC
    5.71g; 19mm
    BMC. Sicily, p 219, 624
     
  15. dadams

    dadams Well-Known Member

    GR8 LFLs AZR - 1 LF Roma here and 3 LFM, but I shan't sully your thread with

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    VRBS ROMA, helmeted and mantled bust of Roma left (RIC-VII-247)
     
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    While my coin below only barely qualifies due to its left facing Domna, I am posting it here in comparison to Ken's mirror image error. My coin is much more common with Serapis facing right but the one faces left and the E denomination letter is also reversed. However the encircling legend was done correctly.
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    I am aware only of one exception to this rule. In c.347 AD Constantius II and Constans issued the first FEL TEMP REPARATIO coins in three denominations. The largest and smallest coins (Falling Horsemen and Phoenix) always have right facing portraits but the middle denomination, which came in more than one reverse, regularly faced left which distinguished them from the other two. Unfortunately, there are no female FTR coins.
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  17. Julius Germanicus

    Julius Germanicus Well-Known Member

    Left facing portrait dies were in fact prepared for most empresses of the 2nd and 3rd centuries. These were created by the best engravers and often exclusively reserved for Bronze Medallions that are all extremely rare now. Here are some examples illustrated by Gnecchi:

    Faustina I, Faustina II, Lucilla, Crispina:
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    Julia Domna, Julia Soaemias, Julia Paula, Orbiana:
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    Julia Mamaea, Otacilia Severa, Magnia Urbica:

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  18. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    As with so many things I dabbled with these.

    Sabina Denarius

    Obv:- SABINA AVGVSTA HADRIANI AVG P P, diademed and draped bust left
    Rev:- VESTA, Vesta seated left holding palladium and scepter
    Minted in Rome. A.D. ???
    Reference:– BMC III 902. RIC II 398. RSC 14

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    Faustina Junior denarius

    Obv:– FAVSTINA AVGVSTA AVG P II F, Draped bust left, hair pulled back and tied in bun behind neck
    Rev:– PVDICITIA, Pudicitia, veiled, standing left, sacrificing over altar
    Minted in Rome, Undated. A.D. 161-164
    Reference:– BMCRE Group V. 1094 (Pius) citing H. M. Treasury (Allerton Bywater Hoard, 1924). RIC III 508d (Pius, Scarce, citing BM)

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  19. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    A favorite of mine which I do miss terribly (but would have been a fool to turn down the offer made!)

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    Cilicia, obol of one of those mysterious Persian satraps

    Similar:
    Cilicia tarsos uncertain aphrodite stephane R4.jpg

    Some which are still with me

    Kelenderis
    Kelenderis obol mule.jpg

    Ionia, Phokaia
    Ionia phokaia obol female head archaic.jpg

    Himera
    Sicily himera ae hexas.jpg

    And of course
    Constantinopolis commemorative.jpg
    Urbs roma commemorative.jpg
     
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  20. arizonarobin

    arizonarobin Well-Known Member

    Thank you for showing the Gnecchi illustrations. If these portraits were created left facing for these medallions- it would be unlikely they would have considered the portrait left unlucky.
     
  21. Sulla80

    Sulla80 Well-Known Member

    This coin reminded me of this lefty thread - here's one more left facing portrait - this time a Roma from a 137 BC RR denarius with dark and iridescent toning that is not readily captured in the image. According to Sear this was a departure from denarius tradition in facing left, the first appearance of Apollo on a denarius, and the positions of ROMA and the moneyer’s name are reversed. Sydenham also notes the variation in this type of the necklace and other details as unusual.
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    M. Baebius Q.f. Tampilus, Rome, 137 BC.
    AR Denarius
    Obv: Helmeted head of Roma left, wearing necklace of beads, behind TAMPIL upwards; before X
    Rev: Apollo driving quadriga right, holding bow and arrow, with reins in left hand, and branch in right hand. Below ROMA, in exergue, M BAEBI QF
    Ref: Crawford 236/1c; RSC Baebia 12
     
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