This guy is amazing. I won two coins from him on eBay, when I got them he had switched them to crummy coins with spots. So when I ask to return them, he whines and agrees to on the condition that I post positive feedback about him first. I didn't for the obvious reasons. Then when I ship the coins he complains and says I won't get a refund unless I post positive about the transaction. Monday he's going to check his mail - I shipped the coins signature required at my expense so at least I'll have some kind of evidence that I shipped them back, although I fully expect him to deny he got them. Here's the last email from this "coin dealer." I'm just glad I only wasted ~$70 on this bozo instead of 10 times that much. ************* I will check my PO box tomorrow. As I stated in my 1st email regarding this return. I need your positive feedback on both auctions before making any refund. In fact I asked you to post positive feedback before shipping the coins. Thanks, Uncle John ************* I have kept all my emails so I hope that helps in what may be my first ever dispute resolution thru eBay.
Feedback extortion is against eBay policy. Don't know that it'll help. Sort of depends on who you're dealing with. Many sellers withold feedback, in order to protect themselves. It never hurts to do a check on this, before you decide to deal with an eBay seller. Good luck.
What is the total feedback score for this seller? Have they been selling for long? That makes a difference. The more established the seller is, the easier it's going to be to get your money back. First of all, this seller needs to be reported to eBay as soon as possible. Bargaining/blackmailing with feedback is against eBay rules and this will go as a strike against the seller. Auctions stay available to leave feedback long after the auction will come up in a completed listings search. It will even drop off your My Ebay view. Just be sure to save the auction number and you have at least 90 days to work with. Submission of a copy of the email will also start the process for the non-performing seller. The seller could very easily be booted from eBay for this. Secondly, did you pay with Paypal? If so, it is much easier to get your money back without the seller's consent. It is not impossible to get your refund if you didn't, just a lot easier if you did. This seller is not going to have a leg to stand on. He's the type of seller that we are all trying to get off eBay, so this transaction is just one more step towards cleaning up eBay. I think in the end you will get your money back and the seller will be booted. So, for the price of shipping, you'll get some satisfaction.
John Wayne once said, "I will cower to no Master, nor bend to no threat." IMHO This threat is not acceptable..! catman
hey! post his ebay id!...I wasn't really aware of what happens in ebay until the last 2 weeks or so! and makes me so mad!!!!
He's got 44 postitive and 1 negative in the last 6 months and has been a member of eBay since 1999. Based on the emails he's sent me that are so low-brow, I find that positive score kind of suprising, although I'm sure I glanced it at it once since I don't bid on stuff from individuals with bad feedback. Anyway I already sent an email to him that was still farily polite but indicated that I would be escalating the issue if he does not behave and also pointed out the coersion.
E-Bay dealers Hi,I new to your board ,Had a dealer on e-bay send me a bad CC morgan,refused to refund unless I pulled the neg feed back off his board,sent the postal inspectors in,since everthing is shipped through the mail,got my money in 5 days and left the neg-feedback there,youmight try this .Mike
Welcome to the forum Lowrider Good for you. I wish more buyers realized that they don't have to put up with the garbage that the crooked sellers feed them. Way to go
Well I looked on eBay and I see they have either SquareTrade or PayPal as fas as dispute resolution. I will have to do some research to check out my options. Even though it's for a relatively small amount of $$ I don't want to let this guy be such a weasel. One of the auctions was http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3949975776&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT and the other was http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=3949975768&ssPageName=STRK:MEWN:IT and yes I guess I got suckered. He offered "opinions" about the grade being MS-67 at PCGS and the coin picture is a deep red. Anyway what I got was a spotted dinged up (but still a "blazer") coins IMHO worth less than one dollar each. I will send him one last email today and then start the dispute resolution this evening. Now that I read through his information and the way he presents stuff I should have pegged him as a hustler earlier on. Shame on me.
If you paid by Paypal, your dispute needs to be filed with Paypal before you file it with eBay. Since Paypal is the one that would succeed in getting your money back for you, this makes sense. If you file with eBay first, your Paypal dispute will not be opened. If you paid by any other means, I would strongly suggest opening up the dispute now with eBay. Usually, once the seller receives a communication either by Paypal or eBay, they cough up the money. I wouldn't be too hard on myself for buying from him. At first glance, his feedback looks fine and it only takes a couple of negs to bring down a FB rating when there are only 500 or so total. The positive comments looked good too. I definitely would have asked him for pictures of both sides. The pictures look like they were scanned and the color usually comes out darker in a scan so I'm sure it looks richer and more even in the pictures than on the actual coin. When you start your report with eBay, I would also suggest reporting the two listings to the CCW. This is the Coins Community Watch at eBay. They are the committee who works with the ANA in reviewing fraudulent/suspicious auctions. Here is the link: http://pages.ebay.com/help/policies/selling-coins.html Go to the bottom of the page and click on Report and then fill in the form. Make sure that you give a complete description of what happened and your attempts to resolve it with the seller. Good luck and let me know if there is any way I can help.
So he's got 45 transactions in about 5-6 years. Personally I am very leery of a ratio like that. I can't explain why, I just am.
He's got one of the same auctions up again. Man did I get suckered. Lesson learned. http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=11944&item=3954858005&rd=1&ssPageName=WDVW My biggest mistake was not scanning the pieces of junk he sent me so I have some record on hand of the difference between what he shows in the auction and what he actually sends out. Also, even though I have blatantly told him feedback coercsion is illegal on eBay, he still insists that's the deal he made with me and he is being generous. Tonight I file a complaint and leave negative feedback as warning to others.
Greyfang, This appears to be a different coin. I think the one I checked last time had two small carbon spots on it that he tried to cover up. On this he doesn't show the reverse and also has doctored the obverse. catman
Unfortunately, auctions such as this one can only be reported after the fact by the buyer. There is nothing in this auction that would cause eBay to investigate this seller. Suggestion: Hold off on the negative feedback until you get the dispute finished. When you are ready to leave it, I can give you a way to have 125 characters to work with so that you can explain exactly what happened. It's better if you can put dispute details in the FB, though. If you want to leave it now anyway, PM me and I'll send the instructions to get more characters.
