Is Apmex trustworthy.

Hmm. If tracking says it was delivered, but your cams say it wasn't, that sounds like an issue with the carrier. I'm not surprised at how it went in that case. If the seller says "I sent it, here's the tracking that says it was delivered", and you say "I never got it", it's not just your word against the seller's; it's your word against the seller and the delivery company.

My personal experience: I've "won" a lot of "too good to be true" eBay items. I've had:

• items that never posted tracking info -- eBay refunded me
• items that turned out to be fakes -- eBay refunded me, sometimes making me return the item (at their expense), sometimes not
• items that shipped with tracking info, but were delivered at another address instead of mine -- eBay refunded me
• items that arrived with packing material but no actual item -- eBay made me file a police report (the police were puzzled, but cooperative), and then refunded me. (This was a "high value" case, well into four figures; but I'd had other four-figure not-as-described refunds that didn't require a police report.)

The only times I've eaten a bad item were when I put off contesting it until the dispute window had closed.

I used to be a heavy seller, but around the time eBay stopped allowing sellers to leave negative feedback on buyers, I had a buyer who nearly scammed me out of a $1700 camera package. We ended up having to recall the shipment from UPS (at considerable expense); it had been redirected ("recipient has moved") to a new address that wasn't eBay-confirmed, and if it had been delivered there, we would have had ZERO Seller Protection.

So, my take is that in general eBay is much safer for buyers than for sellers. There are spectacular exceptions, of course; I'm sorry you were the victim of one. And apparently it's not too dangerous for sellers, because people continue to sell there in high volume.

 

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Yeah, I don't know if you ever had to deal with paypal customer support but it's hell. I refuse, I just don't care about their deals. As far as I see it eBay owes me money. I even gave them security footage of the time and date in question. It was odd too because the delivery date was supposed to be later than when it actually claimed it arrived. eBay's response was I could have edited the timestamp on my recording device...I feel an unforgiving rage for them. So none of my money will pass through their hands ever again.

 

Shut down my account and never looked back.

 

How is it ebays fault that the item was marked delivered and didn't come?

Do you know how many people they have to deal with daily who tell them "it was marked as delivered but never came give me my money back". If your story is legitimate your issue should be with the post office and not ebay.

 

So....I'm a liar now. Great. Feels good man.

 

Where did I say you're a liar? I said you're blaming the wrong person. USPS marked a package delivered that was never delivered unless I'm reading wrong. We know it wasn't delivered because you have video set up.

So if USPS said it was delivered and it wasn't - why is that ebays fault? USPS screwed up somewhere either delivering to the wrong place or stealing the package themself.

And the fact is even though you're not a liar a LOT of other people are and try to get something for nothing from sites like ebay.

 

Nobody's calling you a liar.

But what would happen if someone came onto this thread and said "oh, I remember him, I sold him a $600 camera, sent it with tracking, tracking said it was delivered, and he said he never received it. He raised a stink with eBay, but they saw I'd done everything right, and they didn't stick me with the bill."

Which of you is telling the truth? Quite possibly both of you -- in which case, as @IBetASilverDollar says, it's USPS (or whoever the carrier was) that's at fault.

Sometimes eBay eats the loss in situations like this (refunds the buyer and lets the seller keep the payment). In fact, by not requiring signature confirmation for sales under $750, it seems like they're implicitly offering to make both sides whole in situations like this. I'm not sure why they didn't in your case.

I've bought and sold hundreds of items on eBay, some priced a lot higher than your camera. Like I said, some of the deals have gone bad, but I've never taken a loss (except the cases I mentioned where it was my fault for not following the rules). I realize that that doesn't help you any, and I can't blame you for not going back.

 

It's not ebay's fault. It's the entire USPS's fault. They are all liars and thieves. I will never use the post office again. I will hand deliver all my packages!

See the poor logic in that statement? It's not obviously ebay's fault you bought a camera from a guy who ripped you off. Nor is it necessarily USPS's fault that the package wasn't delivered. Of course, your mail man /could/ have stolen the package. Ebay /could/ ignore all of your pleas. In those cases, maybe it would be their faults, but don't necessarily jump to conclusions that they entire system of ebay is rotten because you had one bad experience.

Back on subject: Skip Apmex. They are just too overpriced. Other dealers are a much better deal.

 

Probably because the seller DID buy delivery confirmation and it showed that it was delivered.

That is the problem with delivery confirmation, all it confirms is that it was delivered SOMEWHERE, not necessarily to the place it was addressed.