1991 Lincoln Memorial Cent - Extreme DDD & Die scratches?

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  1. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

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    The coin above seems to evidence extreme deteriorated die doubling. If this were a case of EDDD, shouldn’t there be other evidence of imminent die death? Looking closer, I think there are die scratches almost everywhere on the reverse of the coin. (I also see die scratches on the obverse.)

    Is my reasoning correct? Is this extreme deteriorated die doubling and die scratches?

    Thanks in advance.
     
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  3. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Split Plate Doubling

    Keep in mind the copper plating is spec'd at 8 microns thick I think?
    so if the minting pressure is a bit more than normal, or the plating is a tad too thin, it gets stretched too much and splits. So you can see the zinc core in the split area which has no copper .

    http://www.error-ref.com/split-plate-doubling

    and
    https://errorvariety.com/OFD/PSD.html

    and
    http://www.lincolncentsonline.com/mechanicalDoubling.html

    just remember .. that post 1982 cents host a whole boatload of problems. They'll totally eat themselves over time. they create their own problems due to the thin copper plating over a more reactive submetal (zinc). The same reason Paint on your car bubbles up anytime the metal underneath rusts or any other impurities.
     
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  4. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Thank you @Clawcoins - Split plate doubling! Dang! I knew of it. Of course.

    So, how do all those scratches figure in? Do you see them as evidence of a die that is deteriorating? A separate issue from the split plate doubling?
     
  5. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    I see some green in 'em "scratches" from your pics ... so I would just think the plating was ripping all the live, long day; but I'm just taking a guess on that from your pics.
     
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  6. paddyman98

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    No :hilarious:
     
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  7. ken454

    ken454 Well-Known Member

    combination of linear plating blisters and die polishing..

    no..

    yes..
     
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  8. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Thanks everybody....That was a great lesson!! You all are wonderful and patient teachers (even if ya can't help laughing at me sometimes! Lol I don't mind at all). I learned a lot and really appreciate it.:)
     
  9. Mymoney75

    Mymoney75 New Member

    Hi everyone, sorry for cutting in, but im new to this site and i need help.
    What do you think of this $5 bill and how do you decide the value..
    Again sorry and thanks
     

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  10. LaCointessa

    LaCointessa Well-Known Member

    Welcome to CoinTalk @Mymoney75 ! There is a CoinTalk forum just for paper money threads. Here is the link: https://www.cointalk.com/forums/paper-money/ You will see a button to click on in order to start a new thread to ask your paper money question.
     
  11. Mymoney75

    Mymoney75 New Member

    Wonderfulthank you for your help
     
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