Thrace Thasos Silenos

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  1. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

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    12-10 mm. 1.13 grams.
    Thrace. Thasos. c. 510-480 BC.
    no legend. Archaic style ithyphallic Silenos "running" right
    quadripartite incuse square.

    Sear Greek I city of 1356ff but not listed.
    Hoover Handbook 6 "Islands" 333.

    We've had a thread with the satyr and nymph:
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/newp-thasos-satyr-nymph-stater.305265/

    This one is smaller and without the nymph. The style is archaic. Note his long hair, beard, and how his shoulders are almost square on when his head is in profile right.

    I like this one for being so early and so well struck. Thasos is known for its coins that are not shy about sex.

    Show us a coin that shows some ancients were not shy!
     
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  3. Bing

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  4. AncientJoe

    AncientJoe Well-Known Member

    This Selinus tetradrachm is very front-and-center, so to speak:

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  5. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I didn't realize the figure on these coins was thought to be Silenos. Do you have citations for that designation?

    Below are a few coins showing the Priapus, god of vegetable gardens/fertility and protector of beehives, vineyards, and flocks (theoi.com) shown in his perpetually ithyphallic state. The medical condition of priapism stems from this deity.


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    MYSIA, Lampsacus. Trebonianus Gallus
    CE 251-253; Sossios, strategos
    AE 23 mm, 5.3 gm
    Obv: ΑVΤ Κ ΟVΙΒ ΤΡ ΓΑΛΛΟϹ; laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev: ΛΑΝΨΑΚΗΝ ЄΠΙ ϹΤΡ ϹΟϹϹΙΟV; ithyphallic Priapus standing left on base, holding filleted thyrsus and pouring cantharus over altar
    Ref: RPC IX 394

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    MOESIA INFERIOR, Nikopolis ad Istrum. Elagabalus
    AE 18 mm, 2.8 gm
    Obv: AVT K M AVP ANTΩNINOC, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right
    Rev: NIKOΠOΛITΩ NΠPOCICTPO N, Priapus standing left, drawing back his cloak to expose his phallus, bowl of fruit balanced on phallus, right hand extended pouring from patera
    Ref: Varbanov 3811, AMNG 2022 (I own neither of those references and cannot verify the numbers)

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    MOESIA INFERIOR, Nikopolis ad Istrum
    Julia Domna, Augusta

    AE 22 mm, 4.5 gm
    Obv: IOVΛIA ΔOMNA CEBAC; draped bust right
    Rev: NIKOΠOΛITΩN ΠPOC ICT; ithyphallic Priapus standing right
    Ref: Varbanov 2858
     
  6. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    Well, TIF is a hard act to follow (wince at that pun), but on Roman coins, their gods in particular seem to always be portrayed as anatomically correct.

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    VESPASIAN 69 - 71 A.D.
    AV Aureus (7.35 g.) Rome Jul. - Dec. 71 A.D. RIC 44
    IMP CAES VESP AVG P M Laureate head right. Rev. NEP - RED Neptune standing left, right foot on globe, holding acrostolium and scepter.

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    DOMITIAN 69 - 81 AD.
    AE Sestertius (26.88 g.) Thrace 80-81 AD RIC 509 Titus
    CAES DIVI AVG VESP F DOMITIANVS COS VII, laureate head right / S C across field, Mars walking right, holding spear in right hand, trophy over left shoulder
     
  7. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    I got it from Hoover's book.
     
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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    This is a 1/8 stater which was attributed to "Lete" when I got it but I realize that there are opinions reorganizing the city names on this group. I do not know on what the earlier or later attributions are based.
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  9. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Well if I were to compare my collection to Ancient Joe's - I would seem to own a lot of junk. But I do not have many coins depicting the "junk" shown here :shame:

    Best I got...

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  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Here's Jupiter letting it all hang out on a not-exactly-fine-style antoninianus of Gallienus:

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  11. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I have AMNG I (Pick) and that is indeed the correct listing:

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    The reverse description is translated as "Bearded Priapos standing left, in the outstretched right (hand) patera (?), pulling back cloak with the left (hand). In the note below on the specimen in St. Petersburg, it reads "whether Priapos carries fruits in the folds of the cloak is not clearly demonstrated to me."

    This one is not listed in AMNG I (Pick).
     
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  12. randygeki

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  13. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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    Hadrian Denarius. IMP CAESAR TRAIAN HADRIANVS AVG, laureate head right, drapery on far shoulder / P M TR P COS III PV-DIC, Pudicitia standing facing, veiled head right, hand on breast
    RIC 135, RSC 1209a, BMC 309
     
  14. randygeki

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  15. Clavdivs

    Clavdivs Well-Known Member

    Love'm both - but that is one beautiful Trajan! thanks for posting
     
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