1863 Liberty And No Slavery CWT Token?

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  1. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    What is the name of these bumps that are on almost all no slavery tokens? The obverse in the pic shows them really well. Anyone know? I call them heat bumps or pimples but I know "pimples" isn't right! :D Anyone? s-llolpoik500.jpg s-llopjhg500.jpg
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Something to do with casting?
    I don't think those tokens were struck like normal coins were.
     
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  4. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    Yep, you're right they weren't! ;) Anyone know the technical name for the bumps?
     
  5. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Casting bumps? ;)
     
  6. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Pebbling
     
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  7. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    That's cool, I'll figure something out. :D
     
  8. alurid

    alurid Well-Known Member

    CWT's were minted like coins. I have read where the dies for some of these tokens were discarded and then reused to make money of the collectablity side of these tokens. The dies got rusty and pitted so after they where cleaned they had pit marks in them. I have not heard of any CWT's being Cast.
    I am by no means an expert on these tokens.
    But I do a lot of reading.
    http://www.cwtsociety.com/history.shtml
    https://www.cwtoken.com/Method.html
     
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  9. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    Exactly, Rusted dies.
     
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  10. almostgem

    almostgem Junior Member

    if this is a duplicate, I apologize, but denticles perhaps ?
     
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  11. ExoMan

    ExoMan Well-Known Member

    IMHO, this is a poorly cast copy. Many CWT copies were produced in the 1960's, celebrating the centennial. Some were sold in sets, like the one pictured.


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  12. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    If you're talking about the "bumps" that run in a circle near the rim on both sides, if they touch and/or are a part of the rim, they're called "denticles". Denticles can be of different shapes and designs.
    If they are round like these and don't touch the rim, they are called "beads".
    Many British and Canadian coins have beads.
    Many Mexican and other foreign coins have denticles.

    This info is just what I've gathered from collecting "modern" (1700 to present?) and reading the descriptions of the coins.

    For more definitive answers you could google "coin denticles" and "coin beads".

    Which is what I'm about to do right now.
     
  13. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    From the net : ".....on a coin a denticle is the toothed border."
     
  14. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    From Wiki :

    Beading
    Raised dot border along the rim of a coin.
     
  15. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member


    Yes, you are correct, Sir !!
     
  16. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Here is a Canadian coin with beading.


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  17. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Here is a Mexican coin with denticles.


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  18. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    Denticles touch the rim.
    Beads do not.
     
  19. BRandM

    BRandM Counterstamp Collector

    I agree with ExoMan. He's very knowledgeable about CWT's, so you guys should take his comments to heart.

    Bruce
     
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  20. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member


    We went from " What are the pimples around the coin called? " to " This is a poorly cast copy. ".

    lol
     
  21. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I think they mean the "bumps" that are all over the coin.
     
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