U.S. coins made in China

Thought that some of you might like to see what I just came accross on e-bay.Look at his list. http://cgi.ebay.com/Replica-1851-Half-Cent_W0QQitemZ140206971155QQihZ004QQcategoryZ4182QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

 

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At least he's honest about them being replicas, and not trying to pass them as genuine like a lot of others.
Guy~

 

honest today - yes... what about tommorrow or th enext day - or next week?? As soon as they learn to make exact copies - minus the word replica - they will sell them as such.

I will give the guy the benefit of the doubt, surley! If i want a replica. But as soon as he starts selling high priced coins of ubber rare examples... buyer beware!

 

I really can't argue with this guy's style at all. He's VERY up front about it.

He may have found himself a nice little niche from China. An honest seller of fake coins.

clembo

P.S. Why not? Ken Potter does it all the time and he's certainly known as legit.

 

I agree. It's not like hes passing them off as real, and I like how ugly they are with the word Replica stamped in to them.

 

I have seen this guy's stuff - not too bad, and die struck not cast.

Funny thing is, I think he is still breaking US law since I believe that the coins must bear the word "COPY".

 

Some folks in China can make copies of Morgans other coinage and passing them off as real. Only an expert can tell the difference. Thats what a friend of told me. And he is a Treasury agent.

 

they do have _copy_ imprinted on them clear as day. I bought an 1893s as an album filler for my Morgan album. I used a Tucson Coin Club wooden nickel in the 1895 proof hole. that fills the two last holes and makes the Morgan album as complete as my budget will ever allow.
they have been available for years, you could never fool anyone with the word copy on the reverse and the decidedly _chrome_ look to them. Mine seems to have used a 1921 obverse as a model for all years. sticks out like a sore thumb but its fun.

 

Actually I'm pretty sure "replica" or any other mark on the coin that clearly indicates it is not an original coin satisfies the law. Besides which, being in China, he isn't subject to US jurisdiction anyway...

 

The following isn't my opinion, it's the actual Regulation:

 

Is it just me, or is this confusing to anyone else? It sounds like the Gov is saying it's ok to circulate fake money, so long as it's labeled as such. Guess it's time to cash in that Monopoly money at the casino!
Guy~

 

There is a world of difference between "intended to circulate as money" and "introduction into or distribution in commerce".

The Hobby Protection Act regulations apply to items intended as numismatic examples, not as circulating coinage. Where's the confusion?

 

Well as posted above you see that "replica" does not satisfy the terms of the lw. And you are right that being in China he isn't subject to the law. But whoever buys them and imports them into this country IS in violation of the law. So if you buy one and have it delevered to you here YOU are the one who has commited a crime, not him.

 

Actually it sounds like there is an interesting loophole here. The "introduction into commerce" thing I take to mean that the coin is to be bought and sold, not necessarily to be spent as money. BUT...what if you import it for yourself and with no intention of doing the commerce thing?

 

Not sure of why all the fuss about coins being made in China. The way I see it so many items we use today are made in China anyway. Our government is all for sending our manufacturing to other countries now so why not our coins. Soon we will see the Mint putting up our coinage for open bidding on manufacturing and naturally China will win. Imagine how our Lincoln Cents will look with lettering on the reverse stating MADE IN CHINA.

 

Months ago I remember seeing eBay auctions for Chinese copied coins, only these never had the word "copy" or "replica" anywhere. The seller even told you how to dirty them up to make them look "antique" in the listing!

Screw the eBay police... I reported the seller to the FBI.

 

BRAVO!!!

 

I have to wonder if the "Silver Dollars" are really Silver....

 

Under this ID but may just be a Deception for another ID

Very scary !

 

Good intentions, but wrong jurisdiction. Secret Service handles counterfeiting of the coinage, and if the maker is in China he is out of the jurisdiction of the Secret Service. The FBI might have some authority to arrest anyone who buys them and brings them into this country as a hobby protection act violation but they would be targeting the buyers not the seller.