1732 piece of eight silver pillar dollar

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  1. Marc Bourre

    Marc Bourre New Member

    15507952189024707465619288094128.jpg 20190221_191013.jpg My father just recently passed away and while going through his belongings came about this coin and it was left to me I am wondering if anyone knows of its authenticity and if so of its value
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Looks like a fake. Reverse never had that writing on it.
     
  4. Marc Bourre

    Marc Bourre New Member

    I seen one on a post it was kind of like copper bronze looking and someone replied to him that the authentic ones we're silver as mine is
     
  5. Yorkshire

    Yorkshire Well-Known Member

    its a souvenir coin
     
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  6. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

  7. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    Definitely a novelty, not genuine. An 8 reales from Spain would never have French writing on the obverse.
     
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  8. Marc Bourre

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  9. Marc Bourre

    Marc Bourre New Member

    Ok
     
  10. Legomaster1

    Legomaster1 Cointalk Patron

    A 1732 would look the same as a 1740 except for the year. If you had the REAL coin from that year, it would be worth at least $2750 according to NGC.
     
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  11. furryfrog02

    furryfrog02 Well-Known Member

    It's an example. Obviously the dates would be different. :banghead:
     
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    A genuine piece my family went in on to gift my grandfather.

    They're fairly hard to fake due to the reeding on the edge
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  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    What he's telling you Marc is that all the genuine Mexico 8 reales coins dated from 1732 to 1771 had the same design on them.

    What you have been told by the others is correct, what you have there is nothing more than a modern reproduction, and it's not even a reproduction of a genuine coin, it's merely a token, a novelty piece of some kind. Kind of like the one you see here -

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    I was the co-designer of that token, it was issued in copper and silver versions as our coin club token. Over the years there have been many companies and organizations who have used designs similar to the Pillar Dollar. The one you posted and the one I posted are merely two of them.
     
  14. Marc Bourre

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  15. Terence Cheesman

    Terence Cheesman Well-Known Member

    What you got is a piece that was part of a promotion to sell toothpaste back in the 1980's. The company and I cannot remember its name ( maybe Crest)came out with something like six coins??? copying originals that were in circulation during the 17th and 18th Centuries and having something to do with Spanish colonial coins and pirate treasure.
     
  16. Randy L Moldenhauer

    Randy L Moldenhauer New Member

    I have one of these coins I found as a kid in 1974. It not real, but, in fact is a reproduction . Mine, was a reproduction made in 1969 and has a crude bevelled outside edge where it was cut out. However my coin after being cleaned eventually turns very black indicating the real silver content. So, as I have had many coin collectors look at it, they have all told me it does have some value for the silver in the coin.
     
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