Love holed coins

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Marsman, Feb 20, 2019.

  1. oz_in_ohio

    oz_in_ohio Active Member

    The maundy money is the time we got rid of out very low graded coins at 3 times the price of melt... I used to sell them at 1.00 each or any 12 for $10.00
     
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  3. Colonialjohn

    Colonialjohn Active Member

    Ocasionally I will buy a holed coin if part of a contemporary circulating counterfeit (CCC) scenario. Sometimes we see an (X) through the coin as another means to signal the next person its been CANCELLED due to its forgery status. When I see a hole coin its sends me a signal it may be a CCC - well with medieval or post 1500 coinage anyway.

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    United States
     
  4. alde

    alde Always Learning

    Here's a holed penny of Edward the Confessor 1042-1066. We will never know why our particular coin was holed but it does add to the story. This one could have been worn as a charm for love of the king or maybe as simple as a way to keep a few together on a string so as not to loose them.
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  5. oz_in_ohio

    oz_in_ohio Active Member

    Very nice but still damaged
     
  6. oz_in_ohio

    oz_in_ohio Active Member

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    Thanks for the reply but please get the spelling correct....As you will see i have taken a picture of the reference book so you know you are wrong ...Have a nice day IMG_2614.JPG
     
  7. Randy Abercrombie

    Randy Abercrombie Supporter! Supporter

    I had been avoiding responding, however my better judgement loses the battle this time.

    Based on your TPG inspired view of coins, the double eagle below is a damaged coin. Nothing more. Nothing less. In fact, the double eagle below was recovered from the remains of the captain of the confederate submarine, HL Hunley. The double eagle bore the impact of a Union bullet and saved the mans life.

    Now I been collecting coins for almost fifty years and to me, the double eagle below is the coolest coin on the planet. See, some of us love the history that speaks to us through our coins. A hole, a chopmark, or a double eagle marred by the impact of a civil war bullet tells us a rich and wonderful story.

    Please just accept the fact that we all see coins in our own way and are not all bound by the standards set by the TPG's. This hobby has something for everyone and not all are TPG imposed.

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  8. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here is my holed coin. To me holed or not this coin has history attached to it. Who put the hole in it, and why did they do it? Was this person a fan of William I? Was this a way of saluting or memorializing the king?

    One of the reasons I do not collect moderns is the obsession over grades. If I like what a coin looks like I will buy it. I really liked this penny. I will never understand submitting medieval or ancient coins to a TPG. I do not need the opinion of someone else to tell me what I am looking at. I do my own research, thank you very much, and do not rely on the work of some company to justify a purchase. I have purchased several coins in slabs and every one has had a brief but decisive meeting with my hammer. I collect coins for their history and not to haggle over a VF or EF designation.

    What it comes down to for me is whether not the coin, hole or not, is an attractive and historically interesting coin.


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  9. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nailed it. Nicely put.

    [EDIT] Ditto, @Orfew

    @dougsmit , perhaps I did not express myself with more clarity. As expressed in the 2 threads immediately above, the Historical value is more important to me as opposed to the reduction in monetary value. I collect more Historically as opposed to technical aspects of Ancient coins. Remember an earlier thread that outlined the many different collecting motivations? :)
     
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  10. alde

    alde Always Learning

    @Orfew, that's a beautiful William I penny. To have a nice portrait and nice text on a coin of his makes it very appealing.
     
  11. rrdenarius

    rrdenarius non omnibus dormio Supporter

    @Orfew You have a great way with words. @TIF is pretty artistic on the subject also.
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  12. Volodya

    Volodya Junior Member

    In fact, you have.
     
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  14. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I will buy a holed coin if it is scarce fits in my collecting field.

    Septimius Severus denarius -
    Obv:– L SEP SEVERVS PER AVG PIV IMP XI PAR P M, laureate head right
    Rev:– SALVTI AVGG, Salus seated left feeding snake coiled around altar
    Eastern mint. A.D. 198
    Reference:– BMCRE page 281 Note, citing RD page 102. RIC 497b corr.

    Part of a very rare issue.

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  15. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Commodus denarius

    Obv:– M COMM ANTO - N AVG PIVS BRIT, Laureate head right
    Rev:- LIR AVG R M TR P - XVII COS VII P P, Libertas standing left folding pileus and sceptre
    Minted in Alexandria. A.D. 192
    Reference:– BMCRE -. RIC -. RSC -.

    3.44g. 17.52 mm. 0 degrees

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  16. Orange Julius

    Orange Julius Well-Known Member

    Next time, just mail any ancients directly to me! (holed, bent, scratched, whatever...) I'll save you time and even pay for the postage! Hahaha...
     
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  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    One of my favorite coins purchased last year...
    RR - Brutus - Libertas Holed Ex Kelly 2986.jpg ROMAN REPUBLIC
    AR Denarius. Holed. 3.58g, 20.8mm. Rome mint, 54 BC. M. Junius Brutus, moneyer. Crawford 433/1; Sydenham 906. O: Head of Libertas right; LIBERTAS behind. R: The consul L. Junius Brutus walking left between two lictors, each carrying fasces over shoulder, preceded by an accensus; BRVTVS in exergue.
    Ex Michael Kelly Collection

    And one of my favorites so far this year...
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    TIBERIUS
    AR Denarius. Holed and gilded in antiquity. 3.67g, 21mm. Lugdunum mint, Group 4, AD 18-35. RIC I 30; Lyon 150; RSC 16a. O: TI CAESAR DIVI AVG F AVGVSTVS, laureate head right; one ribbon on shoulder. R: PONTIF MAXIM, Livia, as Pax, seated right, holding scepter and olive branch, feet on footstool; ornate chair legs, single line below.
     
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  18. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Wonderful Brutus Denarius!
     
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  19. SeptimusT

    SeptimusT Well-Known Member

    The only holed coin that I have is this Republican denarius of C. M. Thermus. If you look closely at the area around the hole on the obverse, you'll see what I believe is a remnant of a base metal attachment, indicating that side was displayed. I like to image that since it depicts Mars it was a Roman soldier's charm.

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    Q. Minucius Thermus
    Obverse
    : Head of Mars left, wearing crested helmet, ornamented with plume and annulet
    Rev: Two warriors fighting; the left protects fallen comrade, the other wears a horned helmet; Q • THERM M F in exergue
    Minted at Rome in 103 BC, Crawford 319/1
     
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  20. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

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