Tacitus - CLEMENTIA TEMP

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have a few examples of this reverse type with variants of the reverse legend "CONSERVATOR MILITVM". This is the first that I have managed to get hold of with the "CLEMENTIA TEMP" legend. It's not particularly scarce. Part of a mixed lot of Romans.

    Obv:– IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– CLEMENTIA TEMP, Mars standing facing, turned right, spear (tip up) in left hand, presenting globe in right hand to emperor standing facing, turned left, scepter in hand.
    Minted in Cyzicus (//S). Issue 3, Officina 2. January – June A.D. 276
    Reference(s) – Cohen -. LV 2414-2416 (3 examples cited). RIC -. RIC MIR temp 4028 (13 examples cited)

    Weight 4.02g. 23.03mm. 0 degrees

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  3. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I have another Tacitus from the same batch. Nothing interesrting though.

    Obv:– IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– LAEITITIA FVND, Laetitia standing left, holding wreath and anchor.
    Minted in Rome (//XXIB). Issue 3, Officina 2. January – June A.D. 276
    Reference(s) – LV 59-81 (22 examples cited). RIC 89. RIC MIR temp 3485 (76 examples cited)

    Weight 4.20g. 22.88mm. 0 degrees

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  4. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    The bust style on yours from Cyzicus resembles that on this issue of Siscia:

    Tacitus ANNONA AVGVSTI antoninianus.jpg
    Tacitus, AD 275-276.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.57 g, 22.1 mm, 12 h.
    Siscia, officina 3, issue 2, AD 275-76.
    Obv: IMP C M CL TACITVS P AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: ANNONA AVGVSTI, Annona standing left, holding ears of corn over modius and cornucopiae; T in exergue.
    Refs: RIC 123; MER/RIC temp 3647; Estiot 2149-56; La Venera 1673; Cohen --; RCV 11767.

    Whereas your Rome mint one resembles that on this coin from Lugdunum:

    Tacitus AEQVITAS antoninianus.jpg
    Tacitus, AD 275-276.
    Roman billon antoninianus, 3.85 g, 23.3 mm, 5 h.
    Lugdunum, issue 1, AD 275.
    Obv: IMP C CL TACITVS AVG, radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: AEQVITAS AVG, Aequitas standing left, holding scales and cornucopiae.
    Refs: RIC 14; MER/RIC temp 3244; Estiot 1126; Bastien 26b; Cohen 5; RCV --.
     
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  5. Alegandron

    Alegandron "ΤΩΙ ΚΡΑΤΙΣΤΩΙ..." ΜΕΓΑΣ ΑΛΕΞΑΝΔΡΟΣ, June 323 BCE

    Nice coin with CLEMENTIA TEMP, @maridvnvm . Knowing the depth of your collection, I was mildly surprised this was your first one. Congrats!

    You have probably seen mine before, but, frankly, I did not realize mine was a CLEMENTIA TEMP also. This one is of PROBVS.

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    RI Probus Æ Ant 22mm 3.75g 280CE CLEMENTIA TEMP XXI Emperor receiving Victory from Jupiter UNKNOWN EASTERN MINT - fight Saturninus
    Why? Cuz I sometimes read @@dougsmit's threads.
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/spacefiller-saturninus.312705/

    (This was a case where I was paying attention to @dougsmit , and was able to capture this cool coin, despite me not collecting this area...). :) :) :)
     
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  6. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    maridvnvm, I recently acquired a nice looking example of the CLMENTIA TEMP type of Tacitus from a Heritage auction that I believe was wrongly described by them, see photos below. They labeled the T on the reverse as the Ticinum Mint mark o_O. Isn't this the mark of the 3rd Officina? The coin weighs 3.58 gm & has most of it's original silvering.
    63089 obv. (3).jpg 63089 rev. (3).jpg
     
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  7. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Yes, that's the 3rd officina of the Cyzicus mint. Here's the listing for you coin in MER/RIC. I believe the MER/RIC example (from the Bibliothèque nationale) is an obverse die-match to yours.
     
  8. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I was referring to CLEMENTIA TEMP combined with this particular reverse type... Here is a CONSERVAT MILIT example.

    Obv:– IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– CONSERVAT MILIT, Mars standing facing, turned right, spear (tip up) in left hand, presenting globe in right hand to emperor standing facing, turned left, scepter in hand.
    Minted in Serdica (S in exe)
    Reference:– Cohen -. RIC -. LV 2386 - 1 example. Estiot P. 404 citing single example in La Venera.

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  9. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I would have sworn that that coin is Siscian in style.
     
  10. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    Ooops. Poor record-keeping on my part. It IS from Siscia. Edited my post to correct the error.
     
  11. Al Kowsky

    Al Kowsky Well-Known Member

    Roman Collector, Thanks for the clarification & attached info :happy:.
     
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  12. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    Nice OP coin. Still no Tacitus in my collection. I bid on an Alexandrian tet of his in the Frank Robinson auction but lost on that one.
     
  13. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice additions, Martin.

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    Tacitus (275 - 276 A.D.)
    Æ(S) Antoninianus
    O: IMP C M CL TACITVS AVG, Radiate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    R: SECVRIT PERP, Securitas standing left, leaning on column.
    Ticinum mint
    4.42g
    22mm
    RCV #11812, Cohen #131, RIC V (1) 163

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    Tacitus (275 - 276 A.D.)
    Egypt, Alexandria
    Potin Tetradrachm
    O: A K KL TAKITOS SEB, Laureate, draped bust right.
    R: ETOVC A, Dikaiosyne (Aequitas) standing left with scales & cornucopiae. Regnal year 1 (A.D. 275/6)
    7.3g
    20mm
    Emmett # 3971, RCV # 11831
     
  14. gogili1977

    gogili1977 Well-Known Member

    Nice Tacitus.
    My latest is VBERTAS AVG
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  15. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    "CLEMENTIA TEMP" is the common reverse found on a coin I consider special and worth adding to any collection based on technical matters. Tacitus experimented with an issue of antoniniani that contained twice as much silver in the alloy. Instead of the one part silver to 20 parts base metal marked XXI, these were one part silver to ten parts base and marked XI. These still were in need of silver wash to make them look like silver coins so some you see will look like copper. They are not terribly common but I have two which I can justify since they have different officina numbers and the one with better silver is not as clear struck as the other. rs2460bb2239.jpg rs2459bb3000.jpg

    What I do not have and certainly want is a 10:1 coin from a mit that used KA instead of XXI. These read IA which is simply Greek for XI. I believe Valentinian has one of these.
     
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  16. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I just have a Probous as well
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    PROBUS AE silvered antoninianus. IMP C M AVR PROBVS AVG, radiate draped bust right. Reverse - CLEMENTIA TEMP, Probus standing left holding eagle-tipped scepter, receiving globe from Jupiter, who stands right holding scepter. A pellet between, XXI in exergue. Antioch
     
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