ERROR?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by don oswald, Feb 15, 2019.

  1. don oswald

    don oswald Active Member

    If you look at the 2 it appears to be doubled. Is that an error? IMG_4498.JPG
     
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  3. CoinBlazer

    CoinBlazer Numismatic Enthusiast

    I see what you mean. But closer up pics would for sure help
     
  4. don oswald

    don oswald Active Member

    It's very hard to get close up pics with iPhone
     
  5. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    You just have to practice and learn how to crop
    We juat see a fuzzy image
    IMG_4498~2.JPG
    Which looks kinda like mechanical doubling but i don't about these coins and cataloged errors.
     
  6. Cool Barber. Looks like a shelf on the 2 so likely machine doubling. Take a pic looking straight down at the coin and not at an angle.
     
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  7. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    Notice how the bottom of the 2 appears to be significantly thinner than the rest of the digits. Looks like it was took a hit and was damaged

    You really need to take the pic looking straight down on the coin. It would be a lot easier to see what you have.
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Take the photo directly on top. Bout 8" away, then crop it.
     
  9. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    X2
     
  10. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    It's pretty hard to tell from that angle, but I am going with MD or PMD.
     
  11. don oswald

    don oswald Active Member

    Maybe this photo will help image.jpeg
     
  12. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    Looks like the 2 took a hit. Not an error.
     
  13. don oswald

    don oswald Active Member

    It's hard to believe that its just damage its looks way to even.
     
  14. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    The mark looks like a straight line in all your pics. Since it doesn't follow the contour of the the 2, it can't be a doubled die or Repunched digit
     
  15. don oswald

    don oswald Active Member

    well, then what exactly is it its not a scratch or a dent?
     
  16. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    So does a knife cut. It can and does happen.
     
  17. Sullysullinburg

    Sullysullinburg Well-Known Member

    After eliminating the impossible, whatever is left, however improbable, is the solution. By the way, a scratch or dent over a 117 year period isn’t very unlikely.
     
  18. don oswald

    don oswald Active Member

    I agree a scratch or dent isn't unlikely but if you would see this coin in person you would agree it can't be just a scratch. Perhaps a knife cut as @Collecting Nut suggested, but I am not to convinced I would like to look in to it more.
     
  19. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Damaged.. As stated.
     
  20. Oldhoopster

    Oldhoopster Member of the ANA since 1982

    You’re asking the wrong question. You want to ask “How could this occur at the mint?”

    There are multitudes of ways for a coin to pick up damage in the real world, but during the minting process, the number of ways an error can occur is limited and can be explained. So focus on how this could occur at the mint and don’t get hung up on “I can’t explain how this could be PMD, so it must be an error”

    I can't come up with an explanation of how it could occur at the mint. It can't be a doubled die or RPD because the line does not follow the any contour of the digit. A strike through would be extremely unlikely because the line doesn't travel beyond the 2. Any debris would have to fit perfectly in the recessed 2 on the die. Filled die? Doesn't look raised and it is unlikely it would form a straight line. Since I can't explain how the mint could make this, nor have others been able to offer a plausible explanation, it must be PMD

    There is always room for additional research, especially since you have the coin in hand, but remember, you need some compelling information to show it's a mint error
     
  21. rte

    rte Well-Known Member

    Obviously Some descendant of captain flint checked the authenticity (using the tooth check method) when someone boarded a ship :D OR Uncle Buck had to check the spark plug gap on his model T in route to California.

    Looks like post mint damage though.
     
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