Who says provincial die engravers weren't talented?

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  1. Roman Collector

    Roman Collector Well-Known Member

    I'll admit that sometimes Roman provincial issues can seem quite crudely rendered:

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    But there are times when I'm awe-struck by how well-rendered they are. I can't get enough of this new acquisition! What artistry!

    Show us your provincial coins with exceptional artistry!

    Severus Alexander Marcianopolis Asklepios.jpg
    Severus Alexander, AD 222-235.
    Roman Provincial Æ 27.2 mm, 8.75 g, 6 h.
    Marcianopolis, Moesia Inferior, Legate Um. Tereventinus, AD 226-227.
    Obv: AVT K M AVP CEVH AΛEZANΔPOC, laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev: HΓ ȢM TEPEBENTINOV MAPKIANOΠOΛIT-ΩN, Asklepios standing facing, head left, holding serpent staff.
    Refs: AMNG I 1027; Moushmov 696; Varbanov 1685 (same dies).

    How about a close-up of Asklepios?

    Severus Alexander Marcianopolis Asklepios close-up.jpg
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Nice Asklepios! Here are two later period Roman Egyptian coin whose reverse is exceptionally artistic for the time. Claudius II has several dies which are, to my eyes, much more artistic than the surrounding decades.

    Beautiful and wonderfully detailed Tyche; crude obverse. I should reshoot this.
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    Claudius II tetradrachm, year 3, /Tyche standing left; Emmett 3896

    A better obverse of Claudius Gothicus (also needs a reshoot; lighting is too oblique).
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    Claudius II tetradrachm year 1, /eagle; Emmett 3878

    Edited: I reshot this Claudius/eagle this afternoon. He looks less sinister without the steeply oblique lighting :D

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    This Alexandrian Domitian is very artistic, both sides.
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    EGYPT, Alexandria. Domitian
    Regnal year 10, CE 90/91
    Æ diobol (25mm, 10.86 g, 12h)
    Obv: AVT KAICAP ΔΟ ΜΙΤ CEB ΓΕΡΜ, laureate head right
    Rev: Agathodaemon serpent, wearing the skhent crown (emblematic of upper and lower Egypt), on horseback galloping left; L I (date) below
    Ref: Köln –; Dattari (Savio) –; K&G 24.109; RPC II 2585; SNG Copenhagen 214; Emmett 277.10 (R5).
    Provenance:
    Ex Giovanni Maria Staffieri Collection
    Ex West Coast/Lloyd Beauchaine Collection (Classical Numismatic Group 41, 19 March 1997), lot 1110
    Ex Classical Numismatic Review Vol. XVI, No. 1 (January 1991), lot 31
    Ex Numismatic Fine Arts Fall Mail Bid Sale (18 October 1990), lot 2365

    Appearances:
    Staffieri, Alexandria In Nummis 39 (this coin)
    Emmett, Alexandrian Coins; obverse illustrated as the header for the Domitian section, p. 24 (this coin) and fully illustrated on p. 26 as a featured (this coin)
    Sear, Roman Coins and Their Values, Vol. I, #2868, p. 511 (this coin)
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  4. Marsyas Mike

    Marsyas Mike Well-Known Member

    Some real beauties posted, for sure. Not quite as nice, but I thought Marsyas from Deultum looked pretty good on this one:

    Severus Alexander - Marsyas Prov Aug 2018.jpg

    Severus Alexander Æ 24
    (222-235 A.D.)
    Roman Prov. - Deultum, Thrace

    M AVR SEV ALEXAND AVG, laureate, draped, cuirassed bust right / COL FL PAC DEVLT Marsyas standing right, holding wineskin over his shoulder and raising right hand.
    SNG Bulgaria 418-23; Var. 2319
    (7.81 grams / 24 mm)
     
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  5. Finn235

    Finn235 Well-Known Member

    I never got into Roman provincials, but I do have some to fill gaps in my imperial collection that would otherwise be tough and/or expensive to fill.

    Augustus/Rhoemetalkes
    Kingdom of Thrace
    Thrace rhoemetalces augustus ae15.jpg
    Love that tiny little capricorn!

    Tiberius Gemellus
    Philadelphia, Lydia - one of the few coins to depict him as a teenager rather than an infant
    Tiberius gemellus AE philadelphia lydia.jpg

    Agrippina the Younger
    Aezanis, Phrygia
    Agrippina AE16 aezanis phrygia.jpg

    Diadumenian AE tetra-assarion
    Nikopolis ad Istrum, under Marcus Claudius Agrippa
    Rev: Hermes holding purse and caduceus
    Diadumenian 4 assaria nikopolis magistrate agrippa.jpg
    (Looks a lot nicer in hand; the glossy black patina is tough to photograph!)

    Tranquillina
    Hadrianopolis
    Rev: Artemis advancing right, holding bow, dog at feet
    Tranquillina AE hadrianopolis.jpg
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Hadrianopolis, Septimius Severus, AE28
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    Alexandria, Julia Domna tetradrachm
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    Nikopolis, Gordian III, Hermes, AE28
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    Antioch, Philip I, tetradrachm
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  7. tenbobbit

    tenbobbit Well-Known Member

    A Macrinus from Nikopolis - Apollo

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  8. ancient coin hunter

    ancient coin hunter 3rd Century Usurper

    ap2.jpg Antoninus Pius, Nice turreted Tyche reverse

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  9. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Galeria Valeria- Antioch. Venus on Reverse. GaleriaVen O     Venus GL.JPG GaleriaVn R    Venus.JPG
     
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  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Nice!

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    Nikaia (AD 54-68) AE 19 - Nero
    Nero, 54-68 AD. AE19 (4.64g). Bare head right / Altar inscribed PAT/RWN/OS in three lines
     
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  11. arizonarobin

    arizonarobin Well-Known Member

    @dougsmit That JD Tetradrachm :woot: I'm in love!
     
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  12. Pellinore

    Pellinore Well-Known Member

    3122 Laodicea wo.jpg

    Domitianus 81-96, Laodicea ad Mare, Seleucis and Pieria (Latakia in Syria). Obv. Bust of the emperor left. Under his chin, the date: BLR = Civic year 132 = 84/5 AD. Rev. Turreted bust of Tyche right.

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    Tetradrachm Elagabalus (218-222), Alexandria. Potin. Dated RY 5 (221/222). Obv. Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right. Rev. Conjoined busts of Helios, draped and wearing radiate crown, and Selene, draped and wearing crescent-moon crown, right; L Є (date) to lower right. 22.5 mm, 12.62 gr.
     
  13. Voulgaroktonou

    Voulgaroktonou Well-Known Member

    One of my favorite provincials: Geta from Isaura Nova, Cilicia. 3.85 gr., 21.3 mm. 6hr. BMC 5; SNG Levante 265. I treasure it especially for how it came to me. I first admired it over 50 years ago in a friend's collection. I never mentioned it again to him, but in 2012 he gave it to me, having remembered my admiration of it when we were both a little younger.

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  14. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Wow! What a great memory, in both senses :).
     
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  15. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    @7Calbrey showed one like this in a fairly recent post. Elegabalus AE22 Antioch 6.58g 22 mm
    Antioch provincial.jpg

    Let me ask a noob question...What distinguishes a coin as a provincial coin?
     
  16. Jwt708

    Jwt708 Well-Known Member

    Here's my Asklepios:

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    Caracalla, AD 198-217
    AE30, 14.9g, 7h; Thrace, Pautalia.
    Obv.: AVT K MAVP CEV ANTONEINOC, Laureate, draped and cuirassed bust right.
    Rev.: OVΛΠIAC ΠAVTAΛIAC, Asklepios standing front, looking left, leaning on serpent-entwined staff.

    I love Provincials!
     
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  17. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    @Kentucky.. I feel that a provincial coin is different from all other provincial coins in matter of impressive design. Think Antioch, Serdica, Mesopotamia etc.. Some members here, I believe, could guess the mint just by looking at the coin.
     
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  18. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Here is one from Alexandria, a coin of Gallienus. I think the reverse is quite artistic.

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  19. arizonarobin

    arizonarobin Well-Known Member

    I find the provincial coinage very artistic!

    My favorite mint Stobi:
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    Caracalla, Stobi M AVREL ANT-O-NINVS AV
    Laureate draped bust right
    MVNI STOB
    Victory standing left holding wreath and palm
    Ae;7.44g;24.5mm
    Josif 421, V42, R126

    Two more of my favorite provincial girls:
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    Corcyra, Epirus
    25mm; 10.18gm
    IVLIA DOMNA CEB
    draped bust right with hair waived and coiled at back
    KORKY-RAIWN above and beneath Pegasus flying right
    Sear in GIC, no. 2326, BMC 7.163.669, Lindgren II (European Mints), no. 1481, Chaix 238

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    Plautilla, Nikopolis ad Istrum Plautilla
    Ae 26mm; 10.60g; Moesia Inferior, Nikopolis ad Istrum
    Magistrate Gallus
    FOU PLAUTILLA CEB
    draped bust right
    UP AV GALLOU NIKOPOLITWN PROC IC
    Hermes, nude, standing left holding purse, mantle hanging from left arm.
     
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  20. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Perhaps surprisingly, or not... the answer isn't as clear as you might think.

    RPConline does a good job of breaking it down in their Introduction pages.
     
  21. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Thanks
     
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