Bohemond IV

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  1. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I've always wanted one of these crusader types and was happy to finally score one. It came in an old paper envelope with info as Bohemond IV. So I will assume that is who it is.

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    Bohemond IV (1201-1216 A.D.)
    BI Denier CRUSADERS, Antioch.
    O: +B(•)AHVHDVS, helmeted and mailed bust left; crescent before, star behind.
    R: +A NTI(•)CIIIA, cross pattée; crescent in second quarter.
    19mm
    .98g
    Cf. Metcalf, Crusades, Class J or K1, 438; CCS 78a.
     
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  3. panzerman

    panzerman Well-Known Member

    Nice one Mat!
    I really love Crusader State coins. Congrats on your acquisition.
    John
     
  4. FitzNigel

    FitzNigel Medievalist

    I’m still looking for one of these. I bought one for a nice price that I plan to resell, but it was not quite one that called to me. I do have one of his predecessor though...

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    Crusader Principality of Antioch
    Bohemond III, r. 1149-1201 (1149-1163)
    AR Denier, Class B, 16.53mm x 1 gram
    Obv.: +BOANVNDVS, bare head right
    Rev.: +ANTIOCHIA, cross in circle
     
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  5. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Never seen that type before, only the obverse style like mine. Neat.
     
  6. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    I wonder why the original collector thought it was Bohemond IV and not Bohemond III, which it most likely is.
     
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  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Any way to tell either apart? I have looked at other examples but it doesn't seem to help, even acsearch has many listed as III or IV.
     
  8. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    Usually it's the shape of the lettering, but in this case the trefoil on the reverse legend is the best clue (+ ANTI ♣ OCHIA).
    This one is probably Malloy 69 or 70, cca. 1163-1187.

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  9. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    And here is a denier minted for Bohemond IV:

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    This is Malloy 78a which your coin has been ided as. Notice for instance the broken B and the broken O's, the dotted Z-looking S and the chainmail formed of downward-pointing crescents.

    This irregular series was minted for Bohemond IV in his first reign, after dealing with the claims of Levon of Armenia and Raymond Roupen and the revolt in Tripoli of 1207. The mint at Antioch seems to have been halted after 1187 and the emission of these new deniers might have started around 1208.
     
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  10. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    That is a pretty neat type. Cool addition Mat!
     
  11. alde

    alde Always Learning

    That's a very attractive and interesting coin @Mat. I've seen them and have been wanting to get one but have not yet. I really like the helmet with the face guard. It really has that Crusades look to it.
     
  12. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thanks
     
  13. Orfew

    Orfew Draco dormiens nunquam titillandus

    Nice coin @Mat I have also wanted one of those for a while. I just have not found the right one yet.
     
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  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Mine came labelled as Bohemond III class B but I know nothing of the series. What distinguishes 'classes'?
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  15. seth77

    seth77 Well-Known Member

    It's a grouping of variations in the letter designs corresponding to the different rulers who minted this type from 1163 to perhaps 1250. Here is a plan of this classification from Malloy et al. Coins of the Crusader States:


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  16. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Thanks, Seth, gonna keep this for myself.
     
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