2002 1/2 oz. Gold Maple Leaf Question

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Gus-gus, Feb 7, 2019.

  1. Gus-gus

    Gus-gus Member

    I have some of these that arrived in sealed plastic labeled R C M, and were attached together in a seamed lined arrangement. So I was surprised to see that they had several chips and scratches. They are at a glance very good and thought they were B U, but could they be resealed in mint packaging? Could they be die clashed? The markings are not uniform as to location on the coins and are on both sides. The reeds show no damage that I can detect. Could it be debris floating around the dies or a lamination defect? I don't really want to unseal them to photograph them, especially if someone knows about them already. Please share your knowledge if you can. Thanks.
     
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  3. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    It is usually when they seal the package.. They damage the coins :yack:
     
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  4. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    @myownprivy knows about the RCM stuff

    Pictures would help immensely too.
    More info like where you bought them from, online links, etc etc etc
    Don't be afraid to inundate us with detailed information.
     
  5. Gus-gus

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  6. Gus-gus

    Gus-gus Member

    I'll try and get a good pix thru the plastic, but don't know as I've never tried it. Came from the Gold Money vault in Toronto, a group I don't recommend. My original holding was w/ BitGold, but after they merged w/ James Turk they don't seem reliable.
     
  7. myownprivy

    myownprivy Well-Known Member

    I have seen damage like you describe on Canadian proof sets, and since the packaging is similar, it wouldn't surprise me if this could happen to RCM gold bullion. Let's see pictures.
     
  8. Gus-gus

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  9. Gus-gus

    Gus-gus Member

    OK, here are some shots thru the plastic. I hope they will help. maple1.jpg maple2.jpg maple1.jpg maple3.jpg maple1.jpg maple2.jpg maple3.jpg maple4.jpg maple6.jpg
     

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  10. Fred Weinberg

    Fred Weinberg Well-Known Member

    I believe what you're talking about is the
    plastic being pressed down onto the coin,
    and getting some of the (curved) rim of
    the coin impressed onto the plastic.

    Other than that, I don't see anything else;
    there are die polish lines in the fields, which
    has been seen before, and is not an error
    or damage.

    Hope this helps, and let me know if I'm
    addressing the wrong thing(s)
     
  11. myownprivy

    myownprivy Well-Known Member

    Agreed

     
  12. Gus-gus

    Gus-gus Member

    Yeah, sorry, It's hard to get a clean pix thru the plastic. That are several small chips scattered over both sides of the coins, Some are indented and other are small piles or rises on the surface. Also there are some scratches mostly circular that also go into the coin and others that seem to be pushing out from underneath. Don't want to unseal the coins, but may have to in order to get shots that show all this.
     
  13. myownprivy

    myownprivy Well-Known Member

    I'll say this, based on what I have learned about Goldmoney and their business practices, it doesn't surprise me one bit that when they provide you with physical gold they would send you subpar bullion.

    However, in the end, selling it to a coin shop will get you the same premium as if it were perfect. Reselling to others on ebay, however, may get you a little less than you could have otherwise.

    I'd be upset, but I wouldn't stress too much. Are all of the coins like this, or just that one?
     
  14. Clawcoins

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  15. Gus-gus

    Gus-gus Member

    I've had money struck on their prepaid Mastercard for about 4 months now. With no warning they froze all accounts in the U.S.A. and I call and/or write weekly to hear the same old refrain,"we'll get right on it and you should have your money back w/in a couple days. That's when I call. Never get anything but an automated response to my emails, promising to get back to me by the next day. I'm not holding my breath, and having a hard time holding my temper. Probability should sue before they just disappear.
     
  16. Gus-gus

    Gus-gus Member

    I've yet to check them all, but these were in a batch of 10.
     
  17. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    me thinks their BitGold valuation deflation bankrupted them .... they're just trying to build cash by shady methods to "cash out" until the gov't/courts steps in. But just an opinion ... i've done no business with them but I did sleep in a Holiday Inn Express a few decades ago.
     
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