Can anyone help identyfing this Papius?

Thanks.
I would like to know the exact markings, searched the internet and i could not see one like mine.
Value also?
Thanks in advance

 

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Welcome, Radu. I hope you'll become a regularly participating member of our community.

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Ok, i undestrand. Thanks for the advice
Very helpfull

 

It's this one, I think.

 

It is Crawford symbol pair 208 (Plate LXVII). The Crawford symbols are just numbered drawings, not actually identified.

 

Spatula and engraving tool?
maybe?

 

I've deleted my initial guess of what the symbols depict, because I'm really uncertain!

 

yes, thanks for the help anyhow
is it a rare coin, with these symbols?

 

We believe that there were 246 different fie pairs uses (one of them is handily numbered CCXLVI on both sides). Coins are currently known for over 230 of these die pairs. Yours is from a known die pair. I don't believe that anyone could really tell you how rare any individual die pair is other than for those only known from a single example. This doesn't generaly impact on value. Value on these varies mainly on style and condition i.e. nice engraving and excellent condition.

I collect them and have about 20 die pairs thus far.

 

Banti calls them spatiola and burino which I believe are engraving tools flat and fine point.

 

Thank you

 

Thank you Doug

 

I'm not sure I completely agree with this, because there are many symbol collectors out there who bid like mad on ordinary VF coins that have an interesting symbol pair. So, I'd add that the subject matter of the symbols can have great impact on value. If the symbol pair makes you think "cool symbols!" they will likely impact value. I'd venture to say this is a more important value driver than scarcity on these high-symbol-count series.

 

@Radu, welcome to CT!

No matter what, that's a nice looking coin!

 

Here's a good resource for these

http://www.bonannocoins.com/l_papius/l_papius_db.php

 

Thank you. You are kind

 

100% agree

 

Am I the only one in this universe, who would like to know what the story about those symbols is all about ??? With respect to technical knowhow (which, sadly, I lack), why is there so little, not to say non-existent, interest in the meanings of the coin's depictions ???

 

i like to know also.....i am rather new in ancient coins....but i am suprised how may variations of papius exists...

 

Brief research, literally of only a few minutes, tells of Papias of Hierapolis, Greek Apostolic father, Bishop of Hierapolis (modern Pamukkale, Turkey) and author, who lived c. 60-163 AD. Papias wrote the Exposition of the Sayings of the Lord, 5 books of Greek Christianity, now, mainly, lost. - The mythological creature on the Reverse is a Griffin, "said to guard the gold of India. The Greeks believed that griffins guarded the gold mines of the Scythians. It is a common bearing in heraldry where it symbolises the combined qualities of eagle and lion - watchfulness and courage. As a Christian symbol it signifies the dual nature of Christ, divine (bird) and human (animal)…."