mercury dime wheat back

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by kennyray, Apr 10, 2012.

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  1. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Highly unlikely ! Do you know why ?

    About 99.9% of the time it's an accident, pure chance. To start with few ever pay attention to the date on posts, most don't even notice the dates. And do you know how most people find these old threads, in particular new members ? They find them by doing Google searches, usually as a result of finding a coin, maybe even a magician's coin like the one in this thread, that they know absolutely nothing about, but have high hopes of striking it rich because they have seen or read stories like this -
    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/1999-cent-dime-mule.270102/

    Or they've done a Google search that kind looks like this -
    https://www.google.ca/search?as_q=&..._occt=any&safe=images&as_filetype=&as_rights=

    Or they've seen something on ebay like this -
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-1995-...NATION-NGC-MS67-MINT-ERROR-COIN-/153343786406

    Next I'd ask if you have any idea how many new members register at CT every day ? Currently we're running at about 40 a day - every day. And more than a few of them make their 1st post in one of the older threads, and most of them do so completely unaware that it even is an older thread. All they care about is that the thread is related in some way to what they are trying to find out about - so then they post in it. In complete innocence, with no ulterior motives in mind.

    And when the members who participate regularly on the forum come along and see them, eventually somebody notices that the new guy posted in an old thread. And then the comments start, as to why they did so. And it's often stated that there simply must be ulterior motives involved - because people just don't post in old threads, they just don't do it.

    Well, lemme ask ya this ? Why do you think we leave all this old threads accessible ? We do so for a couple of reasons, 1 they are just chock full of good information in many cases. And 2 because we see absolutely nothing wrong with people posting in them regardless of how old they are. The very purpose of this forum is the sharing of information and knowledge - and that includes all the old threads.

    So when somebody, a new member or an established member, posts in an old thread I see it as a good thing, and never a bad thing. Think about that for a minute, think about who is saying it. And I'm saying THAT because it is my job to be suspicious of everybody, to always be on the lookout for the bad things. And you'll be hard pressed to find anyone who is more skeptical, and suspicious than I am. And yet I can say something like I just said above.

    And no, I don't think that others are more skeptical or suspicious than I am because they make the comments that they do sometimes. And no I don't think they're bad people either. I think they're a lot like the new members who make the posts they do because they are simply ignorant of the subject matter. Only it's not a question of ignorance in their case, it's just that they don't even think about how or why somebody else, somebody completely new, could ever do such a thing in complete innocence. They just assume it must be for some nefarious reason.

    Now could it be ? Yeah it could. But I'd say the odds are about 100 to 1 that it isn't.

    Maybe people need to think about that once in a while, consider that somebody might honestly be searching for help and understanding, as opposed to trying to stir up trouble. Or maybe trying to defend someone else, similar to themselves, that perceive to be being picked on because of the responses posted.

    And to be honest with ya, when I see responses like the one I quoted above, I can't say I blame them.
     
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  3. Clawcoins

    Clawcoins Damaging Coins Daily

    Just look it up on YouTube. There's plenty examples of ppl making these and showing how.
     
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  4. frankjg

    frankjg Well-Known Member

    Doug, I agree with you completely about keeping threads open for the content and I typically have zero issue with new members posting in old threads that are related to a coin they may have come across. That makes complete sense and there is no reason to be a stickler about that.

    However, in this instance, this is the first and only post of the poster in question:

    If this person had a similar coin, they could have very easily posted a picture of it, in this thread, and asked if for opinions. Instead, they immediately criticized everyone who responded to the original poster and then hurled a series of insults at the members. No mention of a similar coin, no new perspective or insight into the original coin, nothing. Just a series of insults as their very first post.

    In this specific case, I fail to see how the actions of this poster are defensible by you or anyone else on this board and I also fail to see how this wasn't some obvious pre-meditated action to rile up board members. Honestly, it could have even been the original poster who still had hard feelings and thinks they have something of great value.

    If in fact this person did do a search, and came to this page through google and learned something about a coin they may or may not have, then why was it necessary to make that their first post? Again, indefensible no matter how or why that person arrived here.

    Maybe @yowzers can help clear this up by letting us know if they have a similar coin and if so, would they be so kind as to show us or ask us a specific question about it?
     
    frankjg, Jan 28, 2019
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  5. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    You completely misunderstood my point, I wasn't defending him at all. What I was trying to do was to point out that there are at least 2 equally plausible explanations for him making the post he did. But you made a conscious choice to choose the explanation you think explains it, and posted about it, seemingly without even thinking about the other possibility. And to me, that's the wrong thing to do. I believe it is better to give people the benefit of the doubt, especially new members, rather than jumping to the conclusion you did. But that's me. It's basically a matter of philosophy - you have yours, I have mine.

    Except for one thing, if it was, I would know it. You and others would not but I would. And by the way, it wasn't.
     
    GDJMSP, Jan 29, 2019
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  6. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    You have replied to a post from 2012 about 6 1/2 years ago. I am sure if it was determined real by professional , he would have come back and let us know.. harshly, Jim
     
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  7. Lehigh96

    Lehigh96 Toning Enthusiast

    If he moved he would have a new IP address and anyone can use a fake name.
     
    Lehigh96, Jan 29, 2019
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  8. Nyatii

    Nyatii I like running w/scissors. Makes me feel dangerous

    Do you think that all of these posts come from one person creating multiple accounts using different names, or just a gathering of friends having fun?
     
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  9. juris klavins

    juris klavins Well-Known Member

    tenor (4).gif :yack:
     
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  10. Circus

    Circus Tokens Only !! TEC#4981

    Well it is used in a trick called scotch and soda, an early version, the scotch being the copper, and dime being the soda. Most semi competent machinist students would be able to do it. along with a small drop of solder in the center and then heated it would be very hard to tell the parting line. I'm not a coin collector just to0kens and medals. But I know that it isn't possible form that to happen at the mint!
    It might also be just stuck in the penny shell from a trick called a penny to dime which Adams magic has made 100,000's of them over the years.
    Here is mine
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    The shell a real dime the block that pulls the shell off the dime which is them palmed before the dime and block is passed around .
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    This trick was generally included in every magic kit sold in the last 100years or so in one variation or another. The last time I checked they were selling for $3.99 on line, when this question came up before.
    They do stick if there is and soda pop or other sticky curd between the two items. a soak in acetone might loosen it up!
     
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  11. MisterWD

    MisterWD Active Member

    Really??? I would say don't fly off the handle when you are full of it. You are criticizing coin pros who know what they are talking about. Mum's the word 'til you learn more.
     
    MisterWD, Jan 29, 2019
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  12. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    Welcome to CoinTalk...do you collect coins?
     
    Kentucky, Jan 29, 2019
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  13. Hookman

    Hookman Well-Known Member

    All I can say to all of this is....YOWZERS !!
     
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  14. NYandW

    NYandW Makes Cents!

    yowzers New members need to read along a while to get the "flavor" of the forum. "Meanies" serves no purpose other then name calling. This is not Fbook, or the local nonsense blog. Calling everyone out with a diatribe doesn't endear you to folks here, trust me. Read, learn, and calm down as your post and my response added nothing to kennyray's back and forth.
     
    NYandW, Jan 30, 2019
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  15. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Kenny. Think about it. Copper one side. Silver the other. That would be magic
     
    Cheech9712, Jan 31, 2019
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  16. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    A what. Did you just attend a spelling bee
     
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  17. howieh

    howieh Suzie’s hubby

    prestidigitator: According to Webster an accountant who works a calculator.
     
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  18. ToppCatt

    ToppCatt ToppCatt

    • The reply to "Magic" is a trick coin used by magicians. Shake it in a sturdy glass or tin and it may separate into two pieces. that's what my dads did.
     
    ToppCatt, Jan 31, 2019
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  19. Kentucky

    Kentucky Supporter! Supporter

    That's funny...which Webster, Alfred E.?
     
    Kentucky, Jan 31, 2019
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