1890 CC Morgan Dollars Grade?

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  1. d7710580

    d7710580 Member

    Hello all,

    Seeking opinions of grade, on these two 1890 CC Morgan Dollars...

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  3. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Is call it VF-25.
     
  4. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    25 and 20.
     
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  5. Dave Waterstraat

    Dave Waterstraat Well-Known Member

    Can't argue against 8th place...:);)
     
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  6. d7710580

    d7710580 Member

    Thanks, appreciate your feedback!

    My 2003 Red Book shows “VF-20”, then goes to “EF-40”, but no “VF-25”...Hmm?
     
  7. longshot

    longshot Enthusiast Supporter

    Red Book prices aren't worth much anyway. Uncertified '90CC's that look like these seem to sell in the $80 to $100 range. You could look on EBay's sold listings for similar coins.
     
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  8. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

  9. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Between F-15, and VF 20. A nice circulated coin.
     
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  10. d7710580

    d7710580 Member

    Thanks!

    As for Red Book, I’m confused about grades, not prices because they don’t list a grade below VF-20”, then go to “EF-40”.

    That said, are these worth getting certified?
     
  11. Morgandude11

    Morgandude11 As long as it's Silver, I'm listening

    Is it worth getting certified? No. Enjoy it as a good date circulated coin.
     
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  12. Inspector43

    Inspector43 More than 75 Years Active Collecting Supporter

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  13. Collecting Nut

    Collecting Nut Borderline Hoarder

    No they are not worth the price of grading. It's a very nice circulated coin so enjoy it as such but skip the grading.
     
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  14. d7710580

    d7710580 Member

    Thanks!
    Got, it, not worth grading...Appreciate feedback, from all.

    Considering selling...At least, one of them, because I’m in need of cash. That said, in the meantime, how would you store them?
     
  15. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

  16. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I'm not sure why the Red Book does not publish the complete grading scale. In my Professional Edition (5th), for Morgans, they don't even list grades other than MS. The scale run from 63 to 66. They do have 3 DPML grades (63-65).

    What series do you collect? I recommend getting books specifically for that series. They have a lot more detail than the Red Book. Another must have, IMO, is the Official ANA Grading Standards book for US Coins.

    As it stands today, it appears the market continues to dissect the scale even further with the "+" grade.
     
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  17. d7710580

    d7710580 Member

    Not that I know of.
     
  18. Prez2

    Prez2 Well-Known Member

    Okay. Just seems rather grey to me. Flat looking. Could be the pic though.
     
  19. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    Both vf. 25 and 20 I’d say.
     
  20. d7710580

    d7710580 Member

    Thanks!
    I understood your grading info, until “grades other than MS”. ;)

    I’m not a collector, I inherited a small collection, of coins & paper money.
     
  21. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    Okay. Let me explain a little further. Forgive me if you already know this. Coins are basically broken up into 3 main grading categories: circulated, about uncirculated and uncirculated. Numerically, the scale is from 1-70.

    The coins you posted clearly fall into the circulated category. Grading starts at Poor and continues to XF (Extra Fine). The numeric scale is 1-45.

    About Uncirculated (AU) has a numeric scale from 50-58. So you'll see a coin graded AU50, AU53, AU55 or AU58. Why the scale jumps from 45 (last circulated numeric grade) to 50 (1st about uncirculated grade)? I can't explain it. Maybe someone else will jump in and give their thoughts on it.

    Then there is Uncirculated. The grade starts at MS60 (Mint State) and continues to MS70 (perfection if you will). For Uncirculated coins (MS), the scale increases by 1 in this grading area. So 60, 61, 62.....69,70. Now the industry is adding a "+" to the MS grades to define/slice it even further. For example, MS65, MS65+, MS66. Some people like this, others don't.

    So at a very basic level, that's the grading scale. It's also one of the most widely debated areas of this hobby. There are so many more nuances to it than I described, but I wanted to give you the fundamentals. There's a world more to learn about the grading scale and actually how to grade a coin. IMO, if you can't grade a coin properly, this is a very dangerous hobby to participate in from a monetary perspective.

    Everything I've described above is "straight grading". There is another side of it in which a coin cannot be "graded" because there's something wrong with the coin. It's been cleaned (mentioned by someone in the thread), it's been scratched, it's been tooled, it's been artificially toned and a host of other issues that would take too long to describe. Let's just say there's a lot to learn about this hobby. The more you participate, the more you learn and the more fun the hobby is.

    Hope that helped a little.
     
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